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Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: stever on August 08, 2008, 10:14:18 am
i ordered it
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mort54 on August 08, 2008, 11:02:48 am
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i ordered it
Got mine this past Monday. It's a great reference book on LR2, and about twice the page count as the original, with more in-depth treatment in a number of areas.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Rusty on August 08, 2008, 12:07:28 pm
Still not available at their .ca site, growl  
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: mmurph on August 10, 2008, 05:24:13 pm
I picked it up at my local Borders in Ann Arbor yesterday.

Multiple copies in stock (despite their web site listing a December 08 release date.   )

 Cheaper than Amazon with a coupon from their Borders Rewards membership.

Best,
Michael
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: DaHen on August 10, 2008, 08:47:18 pm
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i ordered it
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Gots mine as well.

Now what to do with Martin's first book on LR v1!!!
  Do I hear a bid??  
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Peter F on August 11, 2008, 06:29:50 am
I have Scott Kelby's book for  LR1.0 and I recently upgraded to 2.0... waiting for his 2.0 book.  

BUT, how doesMartin Evening's book (I guess you can only compare his version 1.0 book with Scott's version 1.0 book) compare with the work of Kelby?

On the  other hand, I don't know how much longer I will want to wait...

Peter F.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on August 11, 2008, 12:58:36 pm
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Still not available at their .ca site, growl 
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Nor .co.uk, alas - where it's not even acknowleged as having been published at all.

Jeremy
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Rusty on August 16, 2008, 12:43:44 am
.ca has advised me that I will get sometime between Aug 29 and Sept 9  
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Gerry Pasternack on August 26, 2008, 04:58:07 pm
Available now at local B&N.  The only LR2 title on their shelves.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Schewe on August 26, 2008, 05:48:22 pm
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Available now at local B&N.  The only LR2 title on their shelves.
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Yeah, Martin worked real hard to get his book done, edited and printed to be as close to the release date as possible...easier for Martin than most people since he's very close to the development of Lightroom. Plus, Martin is also under the gun to finish off his Photoshop For Photographers book for the "next version of Photoshop" which of course, I can't really talk about...

:~)
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: ruraltrekker on August 26, 2008, 06:52:55 pm
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...Plus, Martin is also under the gun to finish off his Photoshop For Photographers book for the "next version of Photoshop" which of course, I can't really talk about...

:~)
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you are evil Schewe

Well I guess Ps CS4 is coming

Ken
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mark D Segal on August 26, 2008, 07:21:25 pm
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Still not available at their .ca site, growl 
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Don't worry about the .ca site - you can buy direct from the US .com site. Delivery is about 8 dollars, no hassles.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Bill J on August 26, 2008, 07:58:27 pm
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...the "next version of Photoshop" which of course, I can't really talk about...

:~)
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It's only about a week until Photoshop World. My guess is you won't have to keep quiet much longer, eh?

:~) :~)
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mark D Segal on August 26, 2008, 08:07:13 pm
Forecasts are dangerous things!  
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: skipc on August 27, 2008, 11:35:05 pm
I've had Martin Evening's book from Amazon since the first week of August. It's far more complete than the previous offering with new illustrative material, excepting the convert to B&W section which was from the previous book. I was hoping for some new B&W tricks. I've picked up dozens of points along the way, but none as kewl as Schewe's ToneCurve "shadow" adjustment. I digress.

Excellent book without Kelby's pandemic sillyness.

I was never able to complete the free companion eBook offer from SafariBooks. Perhaps they were not ready for business, because the website was impossible and customer service clueless.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Markus Jais on August 28, 2008, 03:02:33 am
I got mine recently and I can says that this is a very good book. Very detailed. Explains not only how to do someting but also why.
I will also get Scott Kelby's book, mostly because he has a different style and I want to review several LR2 books for my website.

If you want only one book, Martin's book is probably the best choice. I hope to have a review online next week.


Markus
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mark D Segal on August 28, 2008, 08:47:32 am
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I've had Martin Evening's book from Amazon since the first week of August. It's far more complete than the previous offering with new illustrative material, excepting the convert to B&W section which was from the previous book. I was hoping for some new B&W tricks. I've picked up dozens of points along the way, but none as kewl as Schewe's ToneCurve "shadow" adjustment. I digress.

Excellent book without Kelby's pandemic sillyness.

I was never able to complete the free companion eBook offer from SafariBooks. Perhaps they were not ready for business, because the website was impossible and customer service clueless.
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Martin writes excellent books, and in a very different style so does Scott. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Scott's work as "pandemic sillyness". Yes, he has a sense of humour which some may like more than others, but when you focus on structure and content, it's darn useful - in a different way from Martin, but still darn useful. Having several of these books on hand, along with Michael and Jeff's tutorial can be helpful notwithstanding the inevitable overlaps, because different things get covered by different authors in different ways.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: canlogic on August 28, 2008, 09:20:41 am
I ordered a copy from amazon.ca on tuesday and received it yesterday. I also ordered his cs3 book.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Markus Jais on September 01, 2008, 07:31:46 am
I've written a complete review of the book. In case you are interested, it can be found here:

http://markusjaisphoto.com/books/book-revi...martin-evening/ (http://markusjaisphoto.com/books/book-review-the-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-2-book-by-martin-evening/)

Markus
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mark D Segal on September 01, 2008, 08:35:25 am
Markus - thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had ordered the book a couple of days ago and your review makes me yet more keen to receive it. I'm using this program quite intensively now except for printing (because I still think soft-proofing is essential) and I think it is generally excellent. I'm glad to hear Martin's book is so detailed, because I've been discovering there are many subtle options and controls in this program one should master to be fully conversant with it.

Mark
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: picnic on September 02, 2008, 09:02:25 am
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Available now at local B&N.  The only LR2 title on their shelves.
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Since Gerry mentioned that B & N had it in stock I dropped by our local B & N yesterday (Labor Day here in the US).  I almost missed it--they had it down in a corner not in the digital photography/PS area, but they did have several copies so I picked one up.  As usual--excellent.  Though I feel pretty comfortable in LR, I still  have picked up a couple of tips already and its a great reference.  He does a terrific job with his books IMO-- covering material and illustrating it also.

Diane
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: dchew on September 06, 2008, 06:48:38 am
Finally got around to ordering it.  Markus, thanks for the effort on the review.  I clicked through to Amazon from your page; hopefully you'll get a few pennies for the effort.

Dave
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Potus5 on September 06, 2008, 06:17:56 pm
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It's also available on-line from Chapter's in Canada, and at a significant discount from the cover purchase price in the store.
I ordered it Monday and it arrived last Friday.
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Philip Weber on September 06, 2008, 07:31:04 pm
I have the LL LR 2.0 video and as I had 1.x since it came out, I used it primarily to get up to speed on the new features.

Having said that, is there enough in the book over and above the video tutorial to make it worth getting?

Thanks,
Phil
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Mark D Segal on September 06, 2008, 07:55:59 pm
Think about what you are asking. To answer this definitively would require reading the book alongside the video and comparing the coverage item by item and then making judgments about what YOU may think to be "enough" difference between them to make both purchases worthwhile. I have another simpler approach altogether: I intend to do a lot of work in Lightroom (already have) so I bought both, because neither of them cost a fortune and I take it for granted there will be both overlap and material unique to each. Remember: no two sets of authors would necessarily approach everything the same way or have all the same ideas. That logic taken to its extreme means one buys everything - but not quite. In this case, like Michael and Jeff, Martin has been with this product from the outset, and there's 600 pages worth to digest. I think it's a tolerable risk there will be value-added owning both, and I don't get any commission from either.  
Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: KeithR on September 06, 2008, 11:02:50 pm
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I think it's a tolerable risk there will be value-added owning both, and I don't get any commission from either. 
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Neither do I but include me in agreement. I have been watching the tutorial and just received the book this past week. Just thumbing through the book I found more info that expands upon MR & JS fine work, so I definitely see them as companions to be used with one another.
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Post by: Tklimek on September 07, 2008, 01:02:30 am
Yup...ditto what the two above posters said.

Cheers...

Todd in Chicago

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Neither do I but include me in agreement. I have been watching the tutorial and just received the book this past week. Just thumbing through the book I found more info that expands upon MR & JS fine work, so I definitely see them as companions to be used with one another.
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Title: Martin Evening's book in stock at Amazon
Post by: Philip Weber on September 07, 2008, 09:04:47 pm
Makes sense and thanks everyone, I'll add it to my library.

Phil
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Post by: Markus Jais on September 08, 2008, 04:57:48 am
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Finally got around to ordering it.  Markus, thanks for the effort on the review.  I clicked through to Amazon from your page; hopefully you'll get a few pennies for the effort.

Dave
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thanks a lot!

In the meantime I am reading two other LR books and although not bad, nothing so far comes close to Martin's book if you really want to master LR2.
Reviews of those books will follow soon.

I also have the video by Jeff and Michael. It's great and complements my learning from Martin's book.

Markus