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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: simplify on July 19, 2008, 01:51:02 pm

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: simplify on July 19, 2008, 01:51:02 pm

Just saw this today.  What will the advantages be, beside being able to opt out of the IR pass filter.

http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2008-07-blog....80718Monochrome (http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2008-07-blog.html#_20080718Monochrome)

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: JeffKohn on July 19, 2008, 05:05:25 pm

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Just saw this today.  What will the advantages be, beside being able to opt out of the IR pass filter.

http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2008-07-blog....80718Monochrome (http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/2008-07-blog.html#_20080718Monochrome)
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No bayer filters and no necessary demoaicing during raw conversion. That means better sensitivity and better resolution.

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: TMARK on July 19, 2008, 09:26:42 pm

Nice.  I know a few people who have asked for a monochrome back for years.  They will be very happy!

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: Plekto on July 21, 2008, 04:56:17 pm

http://www.mega-vision.com/products/Mono/Mono.htm (http://www.mega-vision.com/products/Mono/Mono.htm)

Costs less and appears to work just as well.

Note - 16MP without a bayer arrangement or filters or other crap nets you 4080*4080(16MP) or roughly equivalent to ~25MP in color.  It's more than adequate. The 39MP model is 7216 x 5412, but has smaller pixels.  Still, while it's a bit less sensitive, that's... (calculates) roughly 60-65MP to get that quality with a color sensor.(just factoring in the Bayer interpolation losses and not any filtering or other junk that gets in the way)

The smart money though seems to be on the square format 16MP.   4000*4000 good clean pixels looks to be just about right.(though it's still 10K+ for the back... sigh)

NOTE: Foveon could make a killing with their sensor here. I keep hoping they'll make a 4000*4000 sensor some day...

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: BobDavid on July 21, 2008, 05:19:38 pm

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http://www.mega-vision.com/products/Mono/Mono.htm (http://www.mega-vision.com/products/Mono/Mono.htm)

Costs less and appears to work just as well.

Note - 16MP without a bayer arrangement or filters or other crap nets you 4080*4080(16MP) or roughly equivalent to ~25MP in color.  It's more than adequate. The 39MP model is 7216 x 5412, but has smaller pixels.  Still, while it's a bit less sensitive, that's... (calculates) roughly 60-65MP to get that quality with a color sensor.(just factoring in the Bayer interpolation losses and not any filtering or other junk that gets in the way)

The smart money though seems to be on the square format 16MP.   4000*4000 good clean pixels looks to be just about right.(though it's still 10K+ for the back... sigh)

NOTE: Foveon could make a killing with their sensor here. I keep hoping they'll make a 4000*4000 sensor some day...
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Is this company still in business?

Title: Phase One Monochrome P
Post by: Plekto on July 22, 2008, 08:49:18 pm

They should be.

http://www.mega-vision.com/contact.htm (http://www.mega-vision.com/contact.htm)
Try calling them?