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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: BernardLanguillier on May 27, 2008, 10:30:39 am

Title: One from Japan
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 27, 2008, 10:30:39 am
Panorama shot hand held at ISO 800 with a D3 and 85 f1.4 at f5.6.

Conversion done with C1 4.1, no noise reduction applied (neither in raw converter nor in photoshop).

Resulting image is 40 Mpixels.



Regards,
Bernard
Title: One from Japan
Post by: Andy M on May 27, 2008, 11:50:52 am
Lovely!
Title: One from Japan
Post by: Lisa Nikodym on May 27, 2008, 12:22:56 pm
Exactly what Andy said.  

Lisa
Title: One from Japan
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 27, 2008, 05:36:22 pm
Agreed. I'm convinced. All I need is a D3 and a Bernard L. to take the panos for me.  
Title: One from Japan
Post by: jjj on May 27, 2008, 07:46:22 pm
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Panorama shot hand held at ISO 800 with a D3 and 85 f1.4 at f5.6.
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Wandering off topic a tad. Didn't you say previously that you never used ISOs above 100, maybe 200 at a push?

Impressive quality on pic though.
But if you had a Gigapan device you could shoot even higher quality pics with a P+S!
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Title: One from Japan
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 27, 2008, 08:26:55 pm
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Wandering off topic a tad. Didn't you say previously that you never used ISOs above 100, maybe 200 at a push?
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That remains mostly true, but this was a non photography related weekend with my girlfriend. No tripod, just a D3 with a 85 f1.4 lens on it.

This image would obviously have been even better shot at ISO200 (the lowest value available on the D3) on tripod, but the noise is only slightly visible in the OOF areas of the image, and a pass of noiseware or noisenija does really help with that. But then again, even on the 30 inch wide print, that I tried last night the noise is really not disturbing at all as it is.

On the other hand, my point of view now is that there are cases where shooting at a higher ISO with the D3 has some value in terms of optimizing the image quality. For instance:

- Windy situations with wind affected subjects or with pano of grand landscapes where a sufficient shutter speed is needed to avoid pano head vibrations,
- Dusk or dawn panos during which an exposure longer than a few seconds results in visible change in luminosity than can negatively impact the quality of stitching.

The rule still remains to shoot as an ISO as low as possible, but taking into account the problems that slower shutter speeds can induce.

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Impressive quality on pic though.
But if you had a Gigapan device you could shoot even higher quality pics with a P+S!
[a href=\"http://www.gigapan.org/]http://www.gigapan.org/[/url] 
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Well yes, but number of pixel is not the only thing that makes this image work. The lack of shadow noise and DR are also key elements.

The best compromise would probably have been to shoot this at f9-f11 with a light 200 mm lens (for instance the Nikkor 70-300 f5.6 VR) on a D300 with a pano head on tripod. That would take us at around 300 megapixel, meaning probably better than drum scanned 8x10...

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: One from Japan
Post by: jjj on May 28, 2008, 06:21:31 am
The problem with stitching shots like these is the foliage, there will always be some small movement unless there is zero wind.

See, there can be advantages to higher ISOs.  
Title: One from Japan
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 28, 2008, 07:04:17 am
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The problem with stitching shots like these is the foliage, there will always be some small movement unless there is zero wind.

See, there can be advantages to higher ISOs. 
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Yep, I agree.

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: One from Japan
Post by: BernardLanguillier on May 28, 2008, 07:08:06 am
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Agreed. I'm convinced. All I need is a D3 and a Bernard L. to take the panos for me.   
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Eric,

No problem, I'll send you a consulting proposal by private mail. My fees are very reasonnable but you'll have to convince my boss to let me go...

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: One from Japan
Post by: Ray on May 28, 2008, 08:15:14 am
Bernard,
I really like that lush, green foliage and the moss. A very striking image.
Title: One from Japan
Post by: wolfnowl on May 28, 2008, 12:22:51 pm
Really well done.  Thanks for sharing!

Mike.
Title: One from Japan
Post by: popnfresh on June 05, 2008, 06:52:48 pm
I like the composition, but I find the loss of low level detail below the roof line distracting.
Title: One from Japan
Post by: BernardLanguillier on June 14, 2008, 08:27:39 am
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I like the composition, but I find the loss of low level detail below the roof line distracting.
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thanks for the comment!

regards,
Bernard