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Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: free1000 on April 29, 2008, 09:16:39 am
Well someone leaked info about some new Epson printers with 10 color inks.

Sadly only large format models 7900 and 9900.

I was hoping for a 4xxx series with no need to swap those darned blacks!

So no upgrade for me just yet.

The evidence has gone.

http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329 (http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329)
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: Scott Martin on April 29, 2008, 09:50:46 am
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Well someone leaked info about some new Epson printers with 10 color inks. Sadly only large format models 7900 and 9900. http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329 (http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329)
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I mentioned this in my newsletter several weeks ago. Epson says they will have dual black support and greater speed. These are Epson's Achilles heals that have allowed Canon to gain ground. I wasn't told what the 10th ink was for but I think it's pretty safe to assume it is a gloss enhancer. Epson has had GE technology for quite a while and the lack of it in the large format printers has given HP an opportunity to gain ground. Merging the K3 and high gloss inksets would be a welcome step forward. Epson is obviously looking hard at its weaknesses and kicking back. I hear Epson is going to announce early but make take quite a while (as they always do) to get printers to market. Epson is the smallest of these three companies and has the slowest to market capabilities. The smaller 3xxx and 4xxx printers will have to wait till after the 7xxx and 9xxx printers are out. I think the big question here is will Canon get their next generation to market earlier and how with the specs compare? The second question to look for is what calibration and or profiling capabilities will these printers have (surely both Epson and Canon will eventually have to meet HP in this regard)? And of course there is price. As the market leader with excellent customer loyalty will Epson continue to keep their prices high or will they be more aggressive to match Canon's pricing (less than $4K for 44", less than $9K for 60" printers)? All fun things to watch!
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: free1000 on April 29, 2008, 10:27:48 am
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I mentioned this in my newsletter several weeks ago. Epson says they will have dual black support and greater speed. These are Epson's Achilles heals that have allowed Canon to gain ground. I wasn't told what the 10th ink was for but I think it's pretty safe to assume it is a gloss enhancer. Epson has had GE technology for quite a while and the lack of it in the large format printers has given HP an opportunity to gain ground. Merging the K3 and high gloss inksets would be a welcome step forward. Epson is obviously looking hard at its weaknesses and kicking back. I hear Epson is going to announce early but make take quite a while (as they always do) to get printers to market. Epson is the smallest of these three companies and has the slowest to market capabilities. The smaller 3xxx and 4xxx printers will have to wait till after the 7xxx and 9xxx printers are out. I think the big question here is will Canon get their next generation to market earlier and how with the specs compare? The second question to look for is what calibration and or profiling capabilities will these printers have (surely both Epson and Canon will eventually have to meet HP in this regard)? And of course there is price. As the market leader with excellent customer loyalty will Epson continue to keep their prices high or will they be more aggressive to match Canon's pricing (less than $4K for 44", less than $9K for 60" printers)? All fun things to watch!
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I'm not aware of your newsletter.

Interesting stuff.  I've been holding back on the purchase of a 17" printer for over a year now as I'm not buying one until at least the problem with 2 blacks is supported.  I have the GE on the R1800 and it has irritated me that this isn't available on bigger printers. I prefer it to the HP solution at least on Glossy paper.

My printer reseller called me with a special deal on the 4880 this morning... so I got suspicious... seems I was right.
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: pprachun on April 29, 2008, 07:38:26 pm
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  I've been holding back on the purchase of a 17" printer for over a year now as I'm not buying one until at least the problem with 2 blacks is supported.

I use the Epson 3800; it's 17 inch AND has both blacks on board withOUT manual switching.  Works like a charm, and unlike my workhorse 9800, virtually never clogs.  Oh boy, I know what's going to start happening now -- it will be your fault  
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: sojournerphoto on April 29, 2008, 07:46:09 pm
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I use the Epson 3800; it's 17 inch AND has both blacks on board withOUT manual switching.  Works like a charm, and unlike my workhorse 9800, virtually never clogs.  Oh boy, I know what's going to start happening now -- it will be your fault 
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The Canon's also have both blacks on board
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: sojournerphoto on April 29, 2008, 07:47:35 pm
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Canon's pricing (less than $4K for 44", less than $9K for 60" printers)? All fun things to watch!
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In the UK it still seems to be over £4,000 ($8k) for an 8100!!

It can't all be tax...
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: DiaAzul on April 30, 2008, 04:38:27 am
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In the UK it still seems to be over £4,000 ($8k) for an 8100!!

It can't all be tax...
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Must come fitted with a Brown cartridge - costs a lot and doesn't deliver anything.
Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: Alistair on April 30, 2008, 04:51:31 am
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Well someone leaked info about some new Epson printers with 10 color inks.

Sadly only large format models 7900 and 9900.

I was hoping for a 4xxx series with no need to swap those darned blacks!

So no upgrade for me just yet.

The evidence has gone.

http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329 (http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=1329)
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Looks like it is still cached at Google:
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Title: Epson 7900 and 9900 printers
Post by: neil snape on April 30, 2008, 08:29:02 am
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I hear Epson is going to announce early but make take quite a while (as they always do) to get printers to market. Epson is the smallest of these three companies and has the slowest to market capabilities.
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I thought Epson did well with shipping the last printers from announcement to delivery. The 3800 made it to market in record time, and was pretty much trouble free. OF course the 24" and 44" are much more time consuming on assembly thus a longer time required for getting to channels would be acceptable anyway.

If the notions of larger gamut are true , and there is that extra print head channel waiting, will it be the best solution to have Glop over a primary?
Where the HP really sings is in printing landscapes with Fuji type of greens that the current Epson cannot print. As you said Epson must be looking to catch up in the few outstanding points that Canon and HP are stronger in , and this is a big one.