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Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 11, 2008, 04:00:12 pm
I happened to stumble across the myspace profile of Markus Klinko and it made me LOL big time. Not only does this guy have an ego big enough to have it's own gravitational pull, he obviously is trying to make up for something with the size of his cameras. He needs a frickin' harness to use it for pete's sake!  

Myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=130070193)

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Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: klane on April 11, 2008, 05:07:34 pm
Well I hate judge but....his myspace does want to make me puke.

As for the cameras- well the rz is an awesome camera...I use one, but id be exhausted after using one of those for 10 minutes. There is just so much crap strapped to them I don't know how he can possibly focus them correctly...

Now for the fuji...another awesome camera, but why the hell do you need it if you already have 2 rz's? The fact he uses it handheld is laughable!  

I'm sure he drives a ferrari strapped to a hummer.    


Good post made me chuckle!
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 11, 2008, 05:14:29 pm
"I'm sure he drives a ferrari strapped to a hummer"... hahaha... indeed  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: eronald on April 11, 2008, 05:17:11 pm
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"I'm sure he drives a ferrari strapped to a hummer"... hahaha... indeed 
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Ok, here's worse - YES, THIS IS A CAMERA.
And by the way, I don't subscribe to the "If it's Outrage it must be Art" school.

(http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0408/10/pinhole_camera_3.jpg)

Taken from here:
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Edmund
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: mcfoto on April 12, 2008, 03:03:36 am
Hi
They do outstanding work!!!! I know this is off topic but is "myspace" worth looking at as a marketing tool?????
Denis
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: elitegroup on April 12, 2008, 03:16:52 am
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Hi
They do outstanding work!!!! I know this is off topic but is "myspace" worth looking at as a marketing tool?????
Denis
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I like Markus & Indrani's work.

I have a myspace page which I use as a networking tool with other creatives and friends, I don't think it makes a great marketing option for sourcing work, I've been approached for an editorial enquiry but that was after having my page up for 3 years     @ [a href=\"http://www.myspace.com/poata8]http://www.myspace.com/poata8[/url]
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: rethmeier on April 12, 2008, 03:45:20 am
He has the best pout in the biss!
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Dansk on April 12, 2008, 08:26:41 am
All that gack and no prism... Ahhh  what can you expect rom a musician anyways?  Turning out work like they do isnt that hard when you have a production crew of 20? or thereabouts and a retouching/compositing team of??? 10?? lots regardless.

  As the saying goes you sell the sizzle not the steak and in fashion there is no truer path to success.

  I too like his work though. Not all of it but most of it
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 09:07:32 am
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All that gack and no prism... Ahhh  what can you expect rom a musician anyways?  Turning out work like they do isnt that hard when you have a production crew of 20? or thereabouts and a retouching/compositing team of??? 10?? lots regardless.

  As the saying goes you sell the sizzle not the steak and in fashion there is no truer path to success.

  I too like his work though. Not all of it but most of it
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Yepp, I can spot the type a mile away, in fact I used to assist a photographer like this back in the days. He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models.. and then he has an army of ppl actually doing the work and making sure the photos look good. Me thinks Indrani is the brains in this duo and Klinko is head of the bullshit department.  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Tim Lüdin on April 12, 2008, 09:38:47 am
Klinko and Indrani belong to the top fashion photographers in the world at the moment.
Their work is outstanding. Ego or not, they are great.
I also think his camera is a bit too much of everything, but he gets the job done, so what...
In the high-end game it's ok to be a bit freaky, it almost belongs to the package.
Some clients like it or almost want it. Some dont.

Klinko is a camera-entertainer. It's ok with me as long the pix are good.

Cheers
Tim
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: elitegroup on April 12, 2008, 09:54:04 am
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Klinko and Indrani belong to the top fashion photographers in the world at the moment.
Their work is outstanding. Ego or not, they are great.
I also think his camera is a bit too much of everything, but he gets the job done, so what...
In the high-end game it's ok to be a bit freaky, it almost belongs to the package.
Some clients like it or almost want it. Some dont.

Klinko is a camera-entertainer. It's ok with me as long the pix are good.

Cheers
Tim
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Hey I wanna get all esoteric, freaky, do the wild thing and have a H3DII-39, Phase One/Mamiya, Sinar Hy6 & Leaf Afi bodies to play with and have 10 sexy buddhist martial artist Victoria Secret assistants who all wear La Perla underneath their Yohji Yamamoto designer couture and give amazing shiatsu and cook delicious Thai food....Uuummm.......thats all........
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 10:26:25 am
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Klinko and Indrani belong to the top fashion photographers in the world at the moment.
Their work is outstanding. Ego or not, they are great.
I also think his camera is a bit too much of everything, but he gets the job done, so what...
In the high-end game it's ok to be a bit freaky, it almost belongs to the package.
Some clients like it or almost want it. Some dont.

Klinko is a camera-entertainer. It's ok with me as long the pix are good.

Cheers
Tim
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Top photographer in the world? I guess that depends on how long your list is, because I can name a whole lot of photographers that deserve to be on that list before Markus Klinko, that's for sure.   But that's really beside the point, this post was not about it his work, but rather his nausea-inducing persona and ridiculously pimped out cameras  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: yaya on April 12, 2008, 10:45:43 am
I find it quite disturbing that some people here so easily (ab)use this public domain to throw mud at a well known professional who as far as I know is doing quite well for himself and also produces decent work.

All that while comfortably sitting behind an alias and without showing any sign of comparative work from their side.

Where I come from, if one wants to criticise someone else's work or behaviour, you either do it in person, giving the other side an opportunity to respond or you keep it off the public domain.

IMHO

Yair
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 10:57:49 am
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I find it quite disturbing that some people here so easily (ab)use this public domain to throw mud at a well known professional who as far as I know is doing quite well for himself and also produces decent work.

All that while comfortably sitting behind an alias and without showing any sign of comparative work from their side.

Where I come from, if one wants to criticise someone else's work or behaviour, you either do it in person, giving the other side an opportunity to respond or you keep it off the public domain.

IMHO

Yair
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Oh get over yourself, I don't need your seal of approval to speak my mind. And that myspace site with all its "I'm a rock star"-kind of photos made me laugh, that's all. If he doesn't want ppl reacting to them he shouldn't upload them. JMO
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on April 12, 2008, 11:05:02 am
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Ok, here's worse - YES, THIS IS A CAMERA.
And by the way, I don't subscribe to the "If it's Outrage it must be Art" school.

More of his cameras are here (http://boyofblue.com/cameras.html). In addition to skulls and HIV+ blood, his cameras feature preserved human infant hearts, altars to Santeria goddesses, and other weird stuff. How does one obtain skulls and infant hearts?
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: H1/A75 Guy on April 12, 2008, 11:05:13 am
They did get the backs correct. I'd have trouble with the left-handed shutter release, besides not being able to lift it.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: thsinar on April 12, 2008, 11:05:32 am
Agree with you.

Thierry

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I find it quite disturbing that some people here so easily (ab)use this public domain to throw mud at a well known professional who as far as I know is doing quite well for himself and also produces decent work.

All that while comfortably sitting behind an alias and without showing any sign of comparative work from their side.

Where I come from, if one wants to criticise someone else's work or behaviour, you either do it in person, giving the other side an opportunity to respond or you keep it off the public domain.

IMHO

Yair
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Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: James R Russell on April 12, 2008, 12:04:47 pm
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I find it quite disturbing that some people here so easily (ab)use this public domain to throw mud at a well known professional who as far as I know is doing quite well for himself and also produces decent work.

All that while comfortably sitting behind an alias and without showing any sign of comparative work from their side.

Where I come from, if one wants to criticise someone else's work or behaviour, you either do it in person, giving the other side an opportunity to respond or you keep it off the public domain.

IMHO

Yair
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A "lot" of what goes on in the public airways is disturbing.

Nobody cares, other than the participants.  

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Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: yaya on April 12, 2008, 12:33:48 pm
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A "lot" of what goes on in the public airways is disturbing.

Nobody cares, other than the participants. 

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James you are right obviously and I'm not here to be anyone's defender but you have to admit that some of the statements above make their poster sound dimmer than what he/ she accuses the subject of his/ her posts to be....

Yair
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 01:01:55 pm
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James you are right obviously and I'm not here to be anyone's defender but you have to admit that some of the statements above make their poster sound dimmer than what he/ she accuses the subject of his/ her posts to be....

Yair
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Oh, so I'm dim now am I? I see like most moral police in this world you are a total hypocrite and the lofty moral standards that you preach only apply to others than yourself.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: James R Russell on April 12, 2008, 01:07:19 pm
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James you are right obviously and I'm not here to be anyone's defender but you have to admit that some of the statements above make their poster sound dimmer than what he/ she accuses the subject of his/ her posts to be....

Yair
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Yair,

Your right to some extent, but there is also a level of personal publicity that surrounds a lot of my industry that has nothing to do with cameras, talent or work ethic.

At certain levels of this business, there is a reality that is 180 degrees from the truth, even to the point of who lights, shoots, conceives and retouches the final image.

Most people don't want to mention any of the publically because it can come across as jealousy or sour grapes, but that doesn't mean that "one hand clapping", is not getting deafening.

To defend or damn, you have to know more than a myspace page or see more than an overly cloned celeb image to know what really goes on, who does it, what it costs and if there is any financial or even artistic success.

This is a strange business that seems to attract way, way, way too much attention.  I'm shocked when actors, dancers, performers (and the group of wannabes) pick up a camera and and start filling the medium with images.

I'm even more surprised that photographers want to be household names.

I come at this industry with the thought that it takes a lot of hard work, investment, risk and effort and I have little patience for the ones that do it only for the "fame".

Where that puts the rest of us is in an uncomfortable position to also start pushing the PR and at that point it's not about the photograph, it's about who has the ability to pose as "blue steel" and scream me, me , me.

It's all silly.

Given this, I respect anyone that has success in this business and knows how to leverage all of their positives to keep going and whether I like the style or way they do it really doesn't matter because most of it just comes down to personal opinion.


JR
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Dansk on April 12, 2008, 01:47:51 pm
Take it easy guys. Its mere opinions that affect nothing in the grand scheme of things. No need to take oneself so seriously this to me was a funny post and worth throwing a little humorous slander the way of Kilnko. Why?

  Heck I dont know but why not? Jay Leno and Letterman made much more lucrative careers off of poking fun at people than Klinko or any of us ever will. Take it easy you'll keep more of your hair by lightening up

I bet Klinko himself would get a laugh out of this thread  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 02:29:03 pm
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Take it easy guys. Its mere opinions that affect nothing in the grand scheme of things. No need to take oneself so seriously this to me was a funny post and worth throwing a little humorous slander the way of Kilnko. Why?

  Heck I dont know but why not? Jay Leno and Letterman made much more lucrative careers off of poking fun at people than Klinko or any of us ever will. Take it easy you'll keep more of your hair by lightening up

I bet Klinko himself would get a laugh out of this thread 
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure Klinko's ego will survive my little humorous post. At least it's a counterweight to all the "Oh my that's a big camera you have Mr. Klinko, can I stroke it?" posts he gets on myspace  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: RicAgu on April 12, 2008, 02:42:46 pm
No he wouldn't!  He may try to sue the person who started the thread!

There is so much bullshit in that camp and clients will get tired of it.  Indrani is a sweetheart.  Klinko is a joke.  Too many shooters from that era have huge crews and never worked a hard day in their life.

I am acquainted with a very famous fashion celeb photog that was billing $20 million a year just five - six years ago.  He blew it all on coke, boys, and partying.  Now he is selling off all his art and collectible furniture to pay his $25k rent and survive.

This guys was doing Maybeline, Loreal, Guess and some of the biggest European fashion gigs you could imagine. Now he is black listed from most of the studios in the city and Agencies want nothing to do with him.

People get tired of the Drama.

That is why you see guys like Sims, Goldberg, McDean shooting non-stop and turning down work.  Turn in stellar work and super low key fun guys to hang with.  The list goes on like Luchford and Sundsbo of people that could be the biggest pricks but rise above that.

I agree with the camera being insane.  I have a similar set up I posted here a while ago.  I guess it is what he feels he needs to get the shot.  What ever works, when you look at the other end you have Terry Richardson with Olympus point and shoots!

I did my Frankencamera to be able to use H1 mounted Phase backs on my RZ.

Also, give just about anyone with a small knowledge of photography the type of crew that K&I have and they could produce very close shots.

Just like in the film days, I hated the darkroom.  I also strongly dislike the Digital Darkroom.  Photogs like Testino, Leibovitz, Avedon and even Henri Cartier Bresson don't like being in the post.  They give their directions and leave it to the Pro's.  There is the opposite end of it with Adams, Penn and Salgado that enjoy printing.  

Everyone has their own way of getting the final result.  At the end of the day, does the shot make you go "Hmm, cool!"

Some of K&I's work is cool, most of it is plasticized schlock.


Just my nickel!
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 02:58:08 pm
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 03:32:50 pm
Your original post was somewhat amusing, but your subsequent posts were a bit mean spirited, I think. This place becomes more like DPReview every day.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 04:31:23 pm
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Your original post was somewhat amusing, but your subsequent posts were a bit mean spirited, I think. This place becomes more like DPReview every day.
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Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Just as I am entitled to thinking you are WAY too sensitive.   I don't know what DPreview is like because I never visit that forum, but I know that I sure as hell wouldn't want to participate on a forum where one person, or a select group of people, decide what is funny, good taste, moral, etc. If you think this forum is not living up to your standards I guess you can always start your own and moderate it to your heart's content.

Peace
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: sid_v on April 12, 2008, 04:40:59 pm
hey asmp,

i think klinko has a message for u on his page:

"sorry if this page causes anxiety in loserville "

i think his cam looks cool to use, i've tried something similar to myrb67/phase, but not ivory and snake skin stuff...I love personalizing stuff... to make it the way i want it . Reminds me of van halens striped frankenguitar. These things are normal to people passionate about their craft.

BTW, people judge a photog not how he shoots, but whom he shoots.

regards,
sid.

www.sidvasandani.co.in
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 04:49:08 pm
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Well, you are certainly entitled to that opinion. Just as I am entitled to thinking you are WAY too sensitive.
As you pointed out, we are all entitled to our opinions on this forum.

In my humble opinion, showing a photo of the guy's way-over-the-top camera is funny. I appreciate you showing it to us.

But saying "He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models.. and then he has an army of ppl actually doing the work and making sure the photos look good." is going a bit too far. How do you know this is true? You don't - you only suppose it is. Should you be saying things in public which trash another person's reputation based only on your suppositions?

And saying someone is "the head of the bullshit department" isn't funny either. It's just name calling.

Telling someone to "get over yourself" for expressing his opinion is a bit too far also. Didn't you say that everyone is entitled to their opinion?

Just my opinion, of course.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 05:14:58 pm
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hey asmp,

i think klinko has a message for u on his page:

"sorry if this page causes anxiety in loserville "

i think his cam looks cool to use, i've tried something similar to myrb67/phase, but not ivory and snake skin stuff...I love personalizing stuff... to make it the way i want it . Reminds me of van halens striped frankenguitar. These things are normal to people passionate about their craft.

BTW, people judge a photog not how he shoots, but whom he shoots.

regards,
sid.

www.sidvasandani.co.in
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I think that quote says more about Klinko and his high thoughts about himself than me. But you are right, being published in fashion magazines in over 40 countries worldwide and working with clients like Giorgio Armani makes me feel like SUCH a looser. Thank god there are amazing photographers like yourself to point that out  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: klane on April 12, 2008, 05:22:26 pm
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As you pointed out, we are all entitled to our opinions on this forum.

In my humble opinion, showing a photo of the guy's way-over-the-top camera is funny. I appreciate you showing it to us.

But saying "He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models.. and then he has an army of ppl actually doing the work and making sure the photos look good." is going a bit too far. How do you know this is true? You don't - you only suppose it is. Should you be saying things in public which trash another person's reputation based only on your suppositions?

And saying someone is "the head of the bullshit department" isn't funny either. It's just name calling.

Telling someone to "get over yourself" for expressing his opinion is a bit too far also. Didn't you say that everyone is entitled to their opinion?

Just my opinion, of course.
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I think he was making those comments about the photog he assisted.  

On another note, I did watch the R&R video and Ball said he thought Klinko was great and would use him in the future, so its odd he would say all those things later in a magazine. My guess is some falling out happened between the two post shoot.  

I think he does some great work, but how much of it is or isn't his production team is in question, but that can be said for almost anyone.  

Let it be clear, I think this post was just supposed to be in good humor about a couple of ridiculous looking cameras and an out of control myspace.

No one is trying to slander the guy or his work.   If the camera works for him..which it clearly does, fine.    

Yair, as a person who represents leaf...learn some manners. It's fine if you don't agree with what others say or think, but calling people dim is just going to stir up a mess.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 05:27:34 pm
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As you pointed out, we are all entitled to our opinions on this forum.

In my humble opinion, showing a photo of the guy's way-over-the-top camera is funny. I appreciate you showing it to us.

But saying "He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models.. and then he has an army of ppl actually doing the work and making sure the photos look good." is going a bit too far. How do you know this is true? You don't - you only suppose it is. Should you be saying things in public which trash another person's reputation based only on your suppositions?

And saying someone is "the head of the bullshit department" isn't funny either. It's just name calling.

Telling someone to "get over yourself" for expressing his opinion is a bit too far also. Didn't you say that everyone is entitled to their opinion?

Just my opinion, of course.
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With all due respect, I could care less what YOU think is funny or where YOU draw the line. I thought I made that clear in my other post? Besides, I've never said I had any facts about Klinko, but rather what my impressions were after looking at his myspace page and the photos he has posted of himself there. I'm sorry, but I still think you are begging to be ridiculed if you make such obnoxious content public as he has. If nothing else he sure can't claim immunity from it, just like any other public figure who craves the attention. It's all part of the game.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 05:31:16 pm
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I think he was making those comments about the photog he assisted. 
Nope. He said he knew the type. His comments referred both to the person he assisted, and this Klinko person he's ridiculing in public.


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Let it be clear, I think this post was just supposed to be in good humor about a couple of ridiculous looking cameras and an out of control myspace.
Absolutely. That's how it started. Good clean fun. But then AMSP made a few comments which went way beyond that, and that's what everybody is reacting to.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 05:35:39 pm
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With all due respect, I could care less what YOU think is funny or where YOU draw the line. I thought I made that clear in my other post? Besides, I've never said I had any facts about Klinko, but rather what my impressions were after looking at his myspace page and the photos he has posted of himself there. I'm sorry, but I still think you are begging to be ridiculed if you make such obnoxious content public as he has. If nothing else he sure can't claim immunity from it, just like any other public figure who craves the attention. It's all part of the game.
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Make it clear all you want, but saying "He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models..." without any facts to back it up is just plain wrong and frankly something you should be ashamed of. I don't care how you want to spin it (and spinning it is what you're doing). Wrong is wrong.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on April 12, 2008, 05:37:27 pm
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Make it clear all you want, but saying "He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models..." without any facts to back it up

Do you know for a fact that asmp doesn't know what he's talking about? Or are you just assuming this?
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 05:41:44 pm
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Nope. He said he knew the type. His comments referred both to the person he assisted, and this Klinko person he's ridiculing in public.
Absolutely. That's how it started. Good clean fun. But then AMSP made a few comments which went way beyond that, and that's what everybody is reacting to.
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Actually, the anecdote WAS referring to the photographer I used to assist. Looking at Klinkos photos merely reminded me of him. And please don't say "everybody" when really you are talking about your own opinions here. It's just silly.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 05:49:16 pm
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Do you know for a fact that asmp doesn't know what he's talking about? Or are you just assuming this?
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Yes, I do :-) ASMP said so in the last post of his I responded to, where he said he didn't have any facts about him, that it was just his impressions based on his MySpace page.

I'm all for having opinions about people. I do it all the time, including opinions about ASMP, as you just noted. But when you start stating these opions in public, without first clearly pointing out that they are just your impressions, is wrong. ASMPs comments that these were just his impressions were after the fact, after he had been called on them, in his attempt to spin what he had said.

If you want to defend him - fine. His comments, and my comments, stand on their own.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 05:52:17 pm
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Actually, the anecdote WAS referring to the photographer I used to assist. Looking at Klinkos photos merely reminded me of him. And please don't say "everybody" when really you are talking about your own opinions here. It's just silly.
You said you knew his type. And then you described that type. Don't try to weasel out of what you said.

Fine, these are just my opinions, if that makes you feel better. Everybody else on this forum agrees with you.

Best regards.

P.S. This thread has gone from amusing to insulting to just plain stupid, so I shall do the sane thing and ignore it from now on.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 06:00:51 pm
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You said you knew his type. And then you described that type. Don't try to weasel out of what you said.

Fine, these are just my opinions, if that makes you feel better. Everybody else on this forum agrees with you.

Best regards.
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So now not only are you the supreme ruler over what is funny and good taste, you're also the one who decides what I really meant. Why am I not surprised? I'm sorry, but I'm not 12 years old and you can't bully me around Mr. High & Mighty.  
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: yaya on April 12, 2008, 06:08:59 pm
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Yair, as a person who represents leaf...learn some manners. It's fine if you don't agree with what others say or think, but calling people dim is just going to stir up a mess.
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Point taken, thanks,

I guess I was responding to the "get over yourself" friendly comment... Also, you are right that I represent Leaf but this really has nothing to do with my company (and I did say "IMHO" in my post, even though I did not remove my signature).

BR

Yair
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Mort54 on April 12, 2008, 06:09:33 pm
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So now not only are you the supreme ruler over what is funny and good taste, you're also the one who decides what I really meant. Why am I not surprised? I'm sorry, but I'm not 12 years old and you can't bully me around Mr. High & Mighty. 
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Against my better judgement, I will respond (one last time). You yourself said these were your impressions of him, based on his MySpace page. And now you're saying you were only talking about someone you assisted. At least get your facts straight.

Supreme ruler are your words about me, but it's you who is making judgements about those you have no facts about. Sounds like it's you who is suffering from the supreme ruler complex.

As for deciding what you really meant, I'm simply responding to your very own words. You say he's all about cocain, etc. Then you say these were your impressions about him. Then you say you were only speaking about someone else. Quite a selective memory you have.

And I'm certainly not trying to bully you. If somehow you feel you are justified in sayng things about others without any facts to back them up, more power to you.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: amsp on April 12, 2008, 06:31:21 pm
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Against my better judgement, I will respond (one last time). You yourself said these were your impressions of him, based on his MySpace page. And now you're saying you were only talking about someone you assisted. At least get your facts straight.

Supreme ruler are your words about me, but it's you who is making judgements about those you have no facts about. Sounds like it's you who is suffering from the supreme ruler complex.

As for deciding what you really meant, I'm simply responding to your very own words. You say he's all about cocain, etc. Then you say these were your impressions about him. Then you say you were only speaking about someone else. Quite a selective memory you have.

And I'm certainly not trying to bully you. If somehow you feel you are justified in sayng things about others without any facts to back them up, more power to you.
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What are you raving about? "in fact I used to assist a photographer like this back in the days. He's all about the cocaine, champagne and screwing models.." My anecdote clearly refers to the last person mention in the sentence before, namely the photographer I used to assist. Anyway, as much as I'd love to continue this hilarious discussion (against YOUR better judgment) I have a plane to Milan to catch in 4 hours. So consider yourself the winner, the spokesman for everybody, the upholder of morality.. whatever you like. I really don't care.

cheers
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: sid_v on April 12, 2008, 11:58:30 pm
amsp: pls post some of your work....never seen anything from you. Do u have a website i can go to. No pressure though.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: TMARK on April 13, 2008, 12:03:40 am
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amsp: pls post some of your work....never seen anything from you. Do u have a website i can go to. No pressure though.
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I've seen his work.  Its fantastic.  You can see some on this very forum if you search under his screen name.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: elitegroup on April 13, 2008, 02:04:55 am
Looks like things are getting a little heated  

I saw this in another thread and made me chuckle  

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/815shmu-1.jpg)
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: shutay on April 13, 2008, 02:33:05 am
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Looks like things are getting a little heated   

I saw this in another thread and made me chuckle   

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/815shmu-1.jpg)
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Excellent! Thanks for sharing.

That ad is so me... luckily in that situation my wife will be thinking the same thing...
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Wim van Velzen on April 13, 2008, 03:34:18 am
I am glad Canon still supposes users of their cameras to know their shutterspeeds and apertures  

The real question is of course ´which iso?´
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: michael on April 13, 2008, 07:56:09 am
I'll leave this thread open for now, but request that the personal name calling be stopped immediately. Any more of it here and I'll close this down.

Michael
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: elitegroup on April 13, 2008, 10:22:54 am
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Om Mani Padme Hum

 
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: elitegroup on April 13, 2008, 10:32:31 am
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I'll leave this thread open for now, but request that the personal name calling be stopped immediately. Any more of it here and I'll close this down.

Michael
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Hi Michael,

Just wondering when we might see the MFD body/back comparison review/test results on Luminous Landscape ?

Namaste,

David
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Anthony R on June 11, 2008, 01:35:30 pm
I have 6 months of personal, first-hand experience with Klinko that I will keep to myself except to say that the Franken-camera is more a novelty than anything else as the files produced from the camera are lacking in some areas. My guess is that it is due to the hack to make the back fit and the lenses not being appropriate for a digital sensor. Just my educated opinion/guess based on a few years ago.

FWIW, he has most certainly seen this post as he googles himself daily.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: sid_v on June 12, 2008, 06:32:43 am
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I have 6 months of personal, first-hand experience with Klinko that I will keep to myself except to say that the Franken-camera is more a novelty than anything else as the files produced from the camera are lacking in some areas. My guess is that it is due to the hack to make the back fit and the lenses not being appropriate for a digital sensor. Just my educated opinion/guess based on a few years ago.

FWIW, he has most certainly seen this post as he googles himself daily.
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hi anthony,

from what i read in an interview on his page is that he uses a kapture group adapter for his fuji and now mamiyaRZ and hassy V mount leaf back, which quite alot of people here have used initially. His modifications are mainly an (ivory)grip slotted with a single release cable, wchich was a must with the older adapters where u had two shoot twice for a single capture.
Most of the newer adapters for mamiya RB/RZ and 'v'mount backs are single shot and have revolving capabilities.
Anyway, i don't think there should be any prob with image qualty because lot of people use the same core of his franken camera without the jingbang attachments.

sid.

btw, hows indrani in person??.... really adore her. Shes half indian like me  .
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Anthony R on June 12, 2008, 09:45:04 am
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hi anthony,

from what i read in an interview on his page is that he uses a kapture group adapter for his fuji and now mamiyaRZ and hassy V mount leaf back, which quite alot of people here have used initially. His modifications are mainly an (ivory)grip slotted with a single release cable, wchich was a must with the older adapters where u had two shoot twice for a single capture.
Most of the newer adapters for mamiya RB/RZ and 'v'mount backs are single shot and have revolving capabilities.
Anyway, i don't think there should be any prob with image qualty because lot of people use the same core of his franken camera without the jingbang attachments.

sid.

btw, hows indrani in person??.... really adore her. Shes half indian like me  .
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What you say may well be true. At the time of my involvement with him however I don't believe that was the case. Could well be now.

She's nice, just don't work for her.

Nice work Sid
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: JTFOTO on June 17, 2008, 10:39:55 am
Klinko = $BDO*WO*BD

Indrani = sweetheart, but difficult on set.  Just wants what she wants and is a wiz with Photoshop and gets frustrated easily.
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Studio12NYC on June 22, 2008, 11:41:46 am
This is HILARIOUS!!!!

Go shoot!!!
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: pixjohn on September 01, 2008, 01:01:59 am
If you don't have the balls to show your work, don't expect any respect regarding your comments.

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I find it quite disturbing that some people here so easily (ab)use this public domain to throw mud at a well known professional who as far as I know is doing quite well for himself and also produces decent work.

All that while comfortably sitting behind an alias and without showing any sign of comparative work from their side.

Where I come from, if one wants to criticise someone else's work or behaviour, you either do it in person, giving the other side an opportunity to respond or you keep it off the public domain.

IMHO

Yair
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Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Snook on September 01, 2008, 10:04:43 am
Sounds like a bunch of ole jealous women in here..
Yeh beat down the hottest fashion crew in the business right now...
That will make you look better...
And don't forget to snort coke and drink champagne.. that is how they got there...
Did that ex photographer screw the female and male models.. you might want to be more specific in your bashing..:+]
Pathetic!
Snook.
PS. not meant for all who posted, but most...:+]
Title: Pimp my camera
Post by: Dansk on September 01, 2008, 10:18:22 am
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Sounds like a bunch of ole jealous women in here..
Yeh beat down the hottest fashion crew in the business right now...
That will make you look better...
And don't forget to snort coke and drink champagne.. that is how they got there...
Did that ex photographer screw the female and male models.. you might want to be more specific in your bashing..:+]
Pathetic!
Snook.
PS. not meant for all who posted, but most...:+]
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Bwahhaha well said and the laughter continues. "Ole jealous women"

Classic.

And yeah I wouldnt mind some of his clients thats for sure. Perhaps all good things in time. I love this message board