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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: jillsw on March 19, 2008, 11:43:11 am

Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: jillsw on March 19, 2008, 11:43:11 am
Has anyone else had trouble with Hasselblad CFV backs producing very yellow images.  Even the fully digital H3D has a definite yellow bias.  I cannot believe I am the only one to notice this.
 
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: pprdigital on March 19, 2008, 11:50:45 am
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Has anyone else had trouble with Hasselblad CFV backs producing very yellow images.  Even the fully digital H3D has a definite yellow bias.  I cannot believe I am the only one to notice this.
 
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There is no issue of "yellow bias" with either of these products. If you have a yellow bias in your images, that is an issue specific to the unit in your possession.

There's many questions that could be asked to determine where the issue originates from.

 - do you see it on all images?
 - what white balance are you using?
 - are you grey balancing in-camera?
 - are you grey balancing in Flexcolor?
 - do you see it on the LCD?
 - do you see it in the software?
 - what version of Flexcolor are you using?
 - do you see it with more than one lens?

Any other information would be helpful.

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: Jeff-Grant on March 19, 2008, 07:12:57 pm
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There is no issue of "yellow bias" with either of these products. If you have a yellow bias in your images, that is an issue specific to the unit in your possession.

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
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That's right Steve. It's a red bias not a yellow one and it certainly occurred on the early H3Ds. Mine still has it, but you don't want to go there.
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: jillsw on March 20, 2008, 02:17:30 am
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There is no issue of "yellow bias" with either of these products. If you have a yellow bias in your images, that is an issue specific to the unit in your possession.

There's many questions that could be asked to determine where the issue originates from.

 - do you see it on all images?
 - what white balance are you using?
 - are you grey balancing in-camera?
 - are you grey balancing in Flexcolor?
 - do you see it on the LCD?
 - do you see it in the software?
 - what version of Flexcolor are you using?
 - do you see it with more than one lens?

Any other information would be helpful.

Steve Hendrix
www.ppratlanta.com/digital.php
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Thank you.  In fact there is a major issue here and all those questions have been asked and answered with no satisfactory conclusions.  We do see it on all images; there is no automatic white balance - the temperature is usually around 4650; we've tried grey balancing in the camera and in Flexcolor; it is not obvious either in the software or on the LCD, but is most obvious in prints - whichever printer is used (these have all been thoroughly checked and tested with other backs, lenses, cameras; the very latest version of Flexcolor is used; it is seen in every lenses used.  Hasselblad are at present investigating the matter, but have come up with no solution as yet.
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on March 20, 2008, 07:10:31 am
Have you profiled your monitor and printer? If so have you tried viewing and printing known good images from other sources to verify you do not have a bad profile or color management setting somewhere? Can you post a sample image so the rest of us can see what you're talking about? That will be very helpful for anyone trying to assist you.
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: jillsw on March 20, 2008, 01:55:02 pm
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Have you profiled your monitor and printer? If so have you tried viewing and printing known good images from other sources to verify you do not have a bad profile or color management setting somewhere? Can you post a sample image so the rest of us can see what you're talking about? That will be very helpful for anyone trying to assist you.
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Thank you.  Yes, yes and yes.  Thank you too for your offer of assistance.  I have actually returned my back to Hasselblad.  They have refunded me in full and been extremely helpful throughout our 18-month struggle with this issue.  As I said, there is a problem, which they are presently investigating.  I have been a Hasselblad user for the past 15 years and it was with reluctance that I've had to go elsewhere, but it was affecting my business - I'm a freelance travel photographer.  I have changed to a Phase One P45 back and am extremely satisfied with it. Thank you again.
Title: Yellow Tints on images produced by Hasselblad CFV
Post by: uaiomex on March 20, 2008, 02:01:14 pm
I own no MFDB but most CFV samples I've seen on the web have a yellow bias to my eyes.
Actually, I think some good photographers take advantage of this for sunset lit landscapes and portraits. They look "golden". For the rest of images it bothers me a bit.

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Eduardo