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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: Lisa Nikodym on December 10, 2004, 11:46:28 AM

Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Lisa Nikodym on December 10, 2004, 11:46:28 AM
Wow, thanks for all the flattery.      (I was really just trying to show what you can do with an introductory html book and a day or two - I didn't mean to hijack the thread!)

But, while we're at it...
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I took a photo of that same farm under the volcanic cliffs, but in a much different setting, and there's been some development there since you took your photo: powerlines now in place. You can check out my Iceland photo-calendar at http://www.cachelan.com/album/album258739 (http://www.cachelan.com/album/album258739)
See the month of "Mai" for the farm photo.

Leif: I saw your calendar - it's beautiful!  It's given me the idea of making my own to give people for Christmas next year.  
And it's not clear that there were no power lines when I took the photo (back in 2001, I think) - if there were, I might have cloned them out in Photoshop. ::  (OK, I cheat - but just a little.)

Lisa
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Lisa Nikodym on December 10, 2004, 11:28:49 PM
I tried Microsoft's Front Page once, and like many MS products, it was a frustrating exercise in trying to get it to do what I wanted, with it constantly trying to do things differently than I wanted and expected.  I gave up and learned to write html instead so I'd have more firm control over it.

Lisa
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Stef_T on January 17, 2005, 07:47:16 AM
Thank you Mr. Neeley. I didn't know one could do that. As soon as I get a new computer that can run it I will try it out.  :p
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Stef_T on January 31, 2005, 05:45:31 PM
Thank you rickster for the information.

I also have no experience with anything to do with HTML, so I'd be in the same league as you. Please keep me posted as to how things are going. Also, do you by any chance know what books to pick up to get a better understanding of it?

Thanks a million,

Stef
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Bill Jordan on December 09, 2004, 10:23:48 AM
Any recommendations for a photo web page developer?
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: BlasR on December 09, 2004, 01:57:32 PM
hi, Lisa i was looking your webside and you have beautifull photos.

I like to say the I've bean almost to those places and when i get my webside together will be some photos almost the same..but yours look more beautifull.


BlasR
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: jwjohnson on December 10, 2004, 03:34:06 PM
I've used Jalbum and a version of the photoshop web gallery that I modified to display photos on my web site.  Here are a couple of examples:

Jalbum (http://www.jjsviewbox.com/ImageCatalog/Page%200604/index.html)

PS Web Gallery (http://www.jjsviewbox.com/ImageCatalog/Subway%200904/index.htm)

At the moment these work well for me.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: BlasR on December 10, 2004, 09:02:19 PM
Every one feel diferent..To me front page is good I have not experience in creating webside but i doing my with front page and i think is very ease to undrstand...But is the only one I used.


BlasR
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 04, 2005, 02:24:01 PM
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after that youll just make an action in photoshop which resizes them (3 actually, one for verticals, one for horizontals and one for square images)
That's totally unnecessary. Look up Automate-Fit Image and it will handle anything and make it a consistent size.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Rainman on January 16, 2005, 01:37:52 PM
For a really simple "Photo Album" look at Gallery (http://gallery.menalto.com/index.php). Its simple enough to setup and maintain.

I'm not a webmiester in the least but I had this up and running in a few hours.

Gallery has plenty of options for display and access to photo's.

Just a thought.


Tim
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: phule on January 27, 2005, 10:32:42 PM
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For a really simple "Photo Album" look at Gallery (http://gallery.menalto.com/index.php). Its simple enough to setup and maintain.

I'm not a webmiester in the least but I had this up and running in a few hours.

Gallery has plenty of options for display and access to photo's.

Just a thought.


Tim
Another vote for Gallery (http://gallery.menalto.com/index.php).  I use it on my domain and I run a domain for all my family members to upload photos to their own personal albums.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: djgarcia on January 30, 2005, 11:50:47 PM
ddolde - beautiful stuff! They may be jpegs but the source definitely shows!

DJ
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Tim Gray on December 09, 2004, 11:04:36 AM
Jalbum (http://jalbum.net/)

Free, easy to use, lots of options, well designed...

An example of a page is My Webpage (http://www.timgrayphotography.com/galleries/200411Nov/index.html)
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Leif on December 09, 2004, 03:11:54 PM
Lisa - wow! your website is great - wonderful photos. I wish I had seen the places you have seen! As it is, I grew up in BC, so I've seen the Rockies, and I spent some time in Iceland recently. Your photos around Hofn are very familiar to me - I spent three weeks there. The Vestrahorn mountain is called the "Batman" Mountain by the locals because it looks like the Batman signal. I took a photo of that same farm under the volcanic cliffs, but in a much different setting, and there's been some development there since you took your photo: powerlines now in place. You can check out my Iceland photo-calendar at http://www.cachelan.com/album/album258739 (http://www.cachelan.com/album/album258739)
See the month of "Mai" for the farm photo.

Cachelan is system that allows people to post photos/whatever online without bothering with the hyper-language codes necessary to create websites. I'm quite impressed with it, but it does cost money: $15, I think, for a certain amount of "time-space" online. Great features too. Check it out if you're curious: http://www.cachelan.com/ (http://www.cachelan.com/)

Cheers - Leif
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 10, 2004, 08:19:48 PM
Well, I'll leave the technical recommendations to the many experts. I haven't gotten around to building a website yet, but I will be learning PHP very soon, as I need to use it in a course I'll be teaching.

But, Lisa! You have inspired me!. I love your site and the pictures. I, too, have been to Iceland (once, in 1974), and several trips to the Canadian Rockies, most recently last summer (first time digital: 10D, mostly with a 17-40/4L). I'll let the list know when I have some up on the web.

Eric
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Joja on January 04, 2005, 06:10:45 AM
ive build mine with dreamweaver. and with no 'real' html experience before i must admid that youll with litle effort can build your website. ive tried several layouts and as soon as i knewed exactly how i wanted it to be it was finished on two days orso... !!
My Webpage (http://http://www.johanjanssens.com/)
the most difficult thing was making as selecting of photographs.. ;-)
after that youll just make an action in photoshop which resizes them (3 actually, one for verticals, one for horizontals and one for square images) and puts the copyright on it.
when your site is finished youll can choose or youll put it on a free hosting site or youll register your own domain ..
the choice is up to you...
good luck
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: 61Dynamic on January 09, 2005, 11:14:33 PM
I recently came across Simple PHP Gallery (http://relativelyabsolute.com/spg/).

Looks pretty good and it does not use tables for layout like every other gallery software out there. It spits out valid XHTML which means simple code, quick loading and very customizeable.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: on January 12, 2005, 02:02:41 PM
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Front Page is from a company that is very incompetent

When I built this site for Michael it was becuase frontpage ruined it.

I can do all sorts of stuff from teaching you how to run your own site, to running it for you. (http://neilcowley.com/synthesis/)
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Stef_T on January 16, 2005, 02:53:46 PM
Has anyone had any experience with Adobe GoLive? It's bundled with the Adobe Premium Creative Suite, which isn't much more expensive then just plain PS, so I was thinking of getting it instead. I was hoping that someone could tell me if this was a good product or not?

Thanks, Stefan
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: ddolde on January 30, 2005, 07:40:20 PM
%&(*((*^%$
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Doc on February 12, 2005, 09:00:02 AM
I used the inbuilt web album from iView Media pro - its great as you can actually create your own templates as well ...... I use Dreamweaver to edit any templates I create.

I understand almost no html and am very much a what you see is what you get (wysiwyg) designer so Dreamweavers ability to do both is cool.

iView is great for cataloging - albeit a bit hexy on $ its still cool.

My example .....

http://www.52photos.com (http://www.52photos.com)

Hey ddolde nice website - great photos !

I tried AcDsee for web templates etc but it wasnt doing great at some raw files.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: BlasR on December 09, 2004, 11:20:19 AM
Front Page2003..
very easy too






BlasR
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Mark Graf on December 10, 2004, 08:22:49 AM
Bill, what are you after?   To just have a location where people can see images on the net or integrate it as part of an overall website?   Lots of options out there.   All depends if you plan on hosting the site yourself, or perhaps you want to just upload images to a site hosted by someone else.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: 61Dynamic on December 10, 2004, 05:34:54 PM
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Front Page2003..
very easy too
Front Page is from a company that is very incompetent in it's internet software (IE) and can't code pages worth a darn. The code that comes out of FP is an awfull mess and does no good other than suck up unneccesary bandwidth loading worthless code and make it difficult to impossible for the disabled to access your site. If you want a WSIWYG (What you see is what you get) editor, DreamWeaver (http://www.macromedia.com/software/dreamweaver/) is a far better product for only $10 more and won't load your site's code with nearly as much repetative jarble.

If you want to hand-code, all you need is NotePad or any basic text editor (no word processing software!) but I'd recomend TopStyle (http://www.bradsoft.com/) wich is geared for web-standards and the use of CSS. It makes hand-coding pages much easier.

I built my site with Topstyle and hand-coded my gallery (http://www.dynamicartwork.com/gallery/) using XHTML Strict and CSS 2. The benefit to this is that the actuall page contains very little code and is easy to find info in it and edit. All visual mark-up is contained in the CSS. Both markup languages are simple and easy to understand.

I'd like a automated PHP based gallery, but so far I haven't seen anything that comes close to what I can make by hand in terms of simplicity, accesability, integration into my site design or speed of loading.

Another option is to use PC CS web gallery under the Automate menu. I've also heard of a way of customising WordPress or MoveableType to be an easy photo gallery management sytem but I haven't looked into that deeply yet...
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Henri Monnier on December 21, 2004, 04:29:40 PM
I echo what Daniel Neeley said concerning Front Page, there is actually one worse, by the same vendor, Publisher..... If you think Front Page is bad, you ain't seen nothin.......

I have done a fair amount of page development over the years (for myself, and under contract), and I like to develop nice easy to maintain pages that are not loaded with lots of java glitz. Most 'by contract' sites I have done - after completion I turn the code and the maintenance over to them, and work on a consultive basis, giving help whenever it is needed.

Anyhow the product I like for page development is Adobe GoLive. It allows WYSIWUG mode, and a very easy transition to work directly in HTML source, with an internal browser. You can bounce back an forth as much as you want between the modes. Since I 'grew-up' doing it all in HTML, I find GoLive to be an outstanding product. For doing the photo pages themselves, I believe the BreezeBrowser Pro product provides the best bang for the buck. It generates all the HTML needed for thumbnails and larger images that you can just cut/paste into your pages. The strong feature - you can develop templates with specialized HTML code that become part of the generated code.

That's my .02........
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: DiaAzul on January 09, 2005, 07:49:31 PM
I found a useful little flash widget for displaying photo galleries which I integrated into my site.

Tanzo Website (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/tanzo/images2.htm)

Unfortunately my ISP has turned off FTP upload for a week so the website isn't quite fine tuned yet but should give an idea of what the widget can do (multiple galleries, slide shows, caption text, etc...). Its very easy to modify the structure of pictures and galleries using XML.

The widget can be found here : Slooz Expose (http://www.slooz.com/trinkets.php)

The rest of the site is hand coded HTML...I didn't get the hang of the page layout tools.
 
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: DiaAzul on January 12, 2005, 04:42:09 PM
Neil - if you are responsible for the main website, how did you end up with such a grim colour scheme and bizarre layout for the main menus? I'm not trying to knock your skills, as your main web site is quite nice - though like michael's too overloaded with information to be an effective marketing tool.

Perhaps we can have a discussion on what makes a good web site to complement our discussions on composition (perhaps opgr can kick of with a couple of rules for us  :D  :p  :D ).
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: 61Dynamic on January 16, 2005, 11:20:16 PM
I have no experience with it myself, but hear it's good.

No better way to find out than to try it out (http://www.adobe.com/products/tryadobe/main.jsp#product=26).
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: rickster on January 30, 2005, 11:10:10 PM
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Has anyone had any experience with Adobe GoLive?

I'm on day two of the trial. After a few false starts I'm starting to get the hang of it. I don't know anything about HTML I'm just hacking it together and learning as I go. I should have the new site up in a few days. So far, I like it a lot more than Front Page. That was an exercise in flustration.
It's nice to have the Adobe forum where you can get some answers.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: 61Dynamic on February 01, 2005, 12:47:57 AM
The best place to start learning HTML is WebMonkey (http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/).

If anyone is interested in more, just email me (http://www.dynamicartwork.com/contact/) and I'll send you a long list of additional resources.
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: Lisa Nikodym on December 09, 2004, 11:29:52 AM
I got an introductory book on writing html from scratch, and turned out a basic photo web site without any web page program at all, in about a day or so:

http://www.stanford.edu/~melkor/lisa_pictu...a_pictures.html (http://www.stanford.edu/~melkor/lisa_pictures/lisa_pictures.html)

You can do a heck of a lot more from scratch than I did, too.  For me, I just wanted to keep it simple and let the pictures do the talking...

Lisa
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: djgarcia on January 09, 2005, 07:24:39 PM
I too use Dreamweaver, but I'm a software developer, which helps some.

http://improbablystructuredlayers.net (http://improbablystructuredlayers.net)
Title: Photo Web Page
Post by: 61Dynamic on January 13, 2005, 01:43:11 AM
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Perhaps we can have a discussion on what makes a good web site...
Formula for a good website:

Content+Useability