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Site & Board Matters => Luminous Landscape Video => Topic started by: KeithR on February 25, 2008, 08:18:21 pm
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Any idea when we'll start hearing about the Camera Raw tutorial?
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It is about 1/3 complete. I have just completed the video editing of the Antarctica piece for LLVJ-17 and will be picking up on CR tutorial later this week
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Cool. Upload that sumbitch.
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Cool. Upload that sumbitch.
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Indeed.
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I will not be uploading anything on CR until it is complete. Too often, I need to go back in the organisational structure to make revisions once editing is complete - so patience...
it will likely be at least mid-March before you see anything.
Chris
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I will not be uploading anything on CR until it is complete. Too often, I need to go back in the organisational structure to make revisions once editing is complete - so patience...
it will likely be at least mid-March before you see anything.
Chris
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I was referring to the Antarctica piece for LLVJ-17. Lay on with the upload.
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While the editing is finished, we now await the composition of music
Then the final sound mix and final polishes and it will be done - likely a couple more weeks
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While the editing is finished, we now await the composition of music
Then the final sound mix and final polishes and it will be done - likely a couple more weeks
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like in the "Money Pit" two weeks
joking with you
bob
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I will not be uploading anything on CR until it is complete. Too often, I need to go back in the organisational structure to make revisions once editing is complete - so patience...
it will likely be at least mid-March before you see anything.
Hello chris,
I'm curious!
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As of March 31, I am about half way through the Camera Raw Tutorial. I expect it will take another two weeks...
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Calibration of estimates would indicate a release date of about May 5th.
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I for one am willing to wait until you get it right.
Thanks for all your excellent work, Chris.
Eric
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I for one am willing to wait until you get it right.
Thanks for all your excellent work, Chris.
Eric
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Oh, me too. I've also used the "two weeks" estimate more than once.
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The Camera Raw tutorial is very big, and has required a lot of work.
The editing has been completed and Chris is now doing the titles, and compression. For the past week I've been seeing two and sometimes three new modules a day.
Hang in there, it's coming sooner rather than later, and I believe will be well worth the wait.
Michael
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The Camera Raw Tutorial is up at this page (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21&products_id=177) on the shopping cart
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The Camera Raw Tutorial is up at this page (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21&products_id=177) on the shopping cart
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Thanks Chris...
Download is smooth at 350kB/s
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Thanks Chris...
Download is smooth at 350kB/s
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I'm happy to report, I'm getting close to 1mb a second, at least on the first file.
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I'm happy to report, I'm getting close to 1mb a second, at least on the first file.
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Great, it must be because I'm downloading software from another server. Let's hope that the good DL speed stays as good as it it when more customers will come.
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Aside from download, I have a complaint (I will not ask for my money back but its something Michael needs to be aware of): He needs a snazzier shirt! <G>
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Aside from download, I have a complaint (I will not ask for my money back but its something Michael needs to be aware of): He needs a snazzier shirt! <G>
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I agree
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Gentleman of taste and breeding do not wear Hawaiian shirts (except, of course, when in Hawaii).
Michael
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Gentleman of taste and breeding do not wear Hawaiian shirts (except when in Hawaii).
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Uh huh...and gentlemen of taste and breeding are, uh...boring :~)
VIVA LA DIFFERENCE!
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Will I be able to make one DVD copy for myself (so I can get it off my desktop) without the watermark?
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You're free to make backup copies for your own use.
Because we do not use copy protection the watermark which occasionally appears, stays. That way if copies get handed around at least there's a form of viral marketing included.
Michael
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Good enough. As long as it's not too intrusive, I don't mind a little marketing.
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I've purchased the excellent Camera to Print and Lightroom tutorials and learned a great deal from both of them. I use Lightroom for all of my raw file conversions.
I did purchase CS3 a couple months ago as Jeff informed me that my CS version was a bit long in the tooth. I also bit the bullet and got the Photokit Sharpener (still using the Epson 2200). Honestly, CS3 has mostly taken up hard drive space other than the occasional round trip needed for printing/softproofing.
I may be missing out on features and workflow improvements by not using bridge but am not sure. With these products having overlapping features I'm concerned that I've already got the basics down and will not get much benefit from this new tutorial.
Is there enough new meat in this tutorial for someone who has the Camera to Print and Lightroom to not be disappointed?
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I've purchased the excellent Camera to Print and Lightroom tutorials and learned a great deal from both of them. I use Lightroom for all of my raw file conversions.
I did purchase CS3 a couple months ago as Jeff informed me that my CS version was a bit long in the tooth. I also bit the bullet and got the Photokit Sharpener (still using the Epson 2200). Honestly, CS3 has mostly taken up hard drive space other than the occasional round trip needed for printing/softproofing.
I may be missing out on features and workflow improvements by not using bridge but am not sure. With these products having overlapping features I'm concerned that I've already got the basics down and will not get much benefit from this new tutorial.
Is there enough new meat in this tutorial for someone who has the Camera to Print and Lightroom to not be disappointed?
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I'm downloading mine now but I too have purchased and watched LR tutorial and Camera to Print. Personally, I think just watching Jeff and Michael is worth the entertainment value so I won't worry about any overlap. Kidding aside, I feel entertained whenever I watch one of these videos and the best part is I don't have to strain my old eyes to read printed text.
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I also have the tutorial for Camera to Print and Lightroom and wondering if it would be worth purchasing this newest Raw video?
Also what Adobe Raw version it this video based on? The latest version from Adobe is 4.4.1.
Thanks,
Stu
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I also have the tutorial for Camera to Print and Lightroom and wondering if it would be worth purchasing this newest Raw video?
Also what Adobe Raw version it this video based on? The latest version from Adobe is 4.4.1.
Thanks,
Stu
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Since 4.4.1 was just released last week and the taping was a few months ago, I'm guessing that it covers 4.3, since that's been out since November/December '07.
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Gentleman of taste and breeding do not wear Hawaiian shirts (except, of course, when in Hawaii).
Michael
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I think that's the influence of that big American guy from Chicago.
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Since 4.4.1 was just released last week and the taping was a few months ago, I'm guessing that it covers 4.3, since that's been out since November/December '07.[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=189533\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Adobe Creative Suite 3 with Photoshop CS3 10.0.1, Camera Raw 4.3.1 and Bridge 2.1
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Is there enough new meat in this tutorial for someone who has the Camera to Print and Lightroom to not be disappointed?
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There is a lot of additional material - mostly to do with the integration of ACR, Bridge and Photoshop. The overlaps are really only in the actual processing/colour adjustment. FWIW I learned a lot
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Is there enough new meat in this tutorial for someone who has the Camera to Print and Lightroom to not be disappointed?
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I've only watched the first 5 pieces, and I know this stuff pretty well. But I think the part where Jeff shows a true non demosaiced image, talks about Raw linear capture is real worthwhile.
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Another 8-hours of training? (I'll need two cases of beer for this one...)
I've finished watching the camera to print tutorial for the second time (lots of information to grasp in the first go. -Excellent stuff).
-Pete
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Another 8-hours of training? (I'll need two cases of beer for this one...)
I've finished watching the camera to print tutorial for the second time (lots of information to grasp in the first go. -Excellent stuff).
-Pete
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That sounds like my education. You didn't go to St. Cloud State, did you?
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Excellent job, you two really hit your stride on this one. The asides are still enjoyable, but the presentation of the material is better paced, less rambling and almost scripted. It makes it easier to follow in the end. Don't get me wrong, the back and forth between you two is entertaining, but there is more focus on getting through the material. I am enjoying the interview inserts at appropriate points, they add a lot. I love hearing the background information.
While a lot of the material is quite familar, having bought both LightRoom and C to P tutorials, the added depth on this one is valuable.
Just finished the Basics panel tutorial, and the finer points on making exposure adjustments really brought it all home to me.
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I am curious, what would this add to my knowledge as I bought Camera to Print and Lightroom before?
I checked out the list off topics and as this very good price as usual as quality is great on the last two video education ones. But low on funds I trying to think if it would add anything?
Are there more in depth on how the controls work?
That was what was most valuable for me in the Lightroom tutorial. I like just the proccess off showing stuff how it work..
I guess I want it but I ask myself if I really need it... Please help me out here
Also does jeff have any new ugly shirt, I dont know why but it made me smile. Sorry if Jeff reads this and maybe gets offended. No hard feelings. Taste is a like a butt, splitted as we say in sweden.
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I've only watched the first 5 pieces, and I know this stuff pretty well. But I think the part where Jeff shows a true non demosaiced image, talks about Raw linear capture is real worthwhile.
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What I found interesting and disconcerting was Jeff's continuing to regard a raw file as gray scale and an RGB TIFF as color despite our previous discussion on the Adobe Camera Raw forum. Strictly speaking no file contains color, since color is a perception that occurs in the brain. What files contain is information necessary to create a tristimulus response that is perceived as color when the information is projected on the retina and decoded in the central nervous system.
An RGB TIFF image could be viewed as three gray scale files, but it is more since each layer contains information about the color of each pixel; when the file is viewed with a color aware application, the viewer perceives color. Similarly, a raw file contains color information about each pixel that is overlain with a color filter. In the raw file, all the information is on one layer in the form of a mosaic, whereas it is present in three layers in the TIFF. Each pixel records only luminance, but since the color represented by the luminance is known, color can be generated.
Jeff believes that color is generated when the file is demosaiced and the missing colors in the mosaic are filled in by interpolation and he proceeds to prove his point by viewing the raw file in a non color aware application (dng_validate). However, if you view the file in a color aware application, the colors are there as shown in this screen shot from Rawanalyze. In the shown view, Rawanalyze takes each pixel of the raw file and displays it on screen in its proper color but there is no demosaicing, white balance, interpolation, or gamma curve. The image is greenish because there are twice as many green pixels as blue or red pixels and no white balance has been applied.
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If you zoom in, you can see the mosaic pattern and the color of each pixel. There there is relatively little blue in the image and most blue pixels appear as black, but some blue is present towards the center of the image.
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In conclusion, a raw file is no more gray scale than an RGB TIFF.
Bill
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What I found interesting and disconcerting was Jeff's continuing to regard a raw file as gray scale and an RGB TIFF as color despite our previous discussion on the Adobe Camera Raw forum.
I figured that would surface from you (assuming that you actually purchased the video, that's good). You guys don't agree. And there's nothing in the video with respect to what Jeff is describing that dilutes what he shows for this level of audience. Do we really need to go down this rabbit hole of semantics AGAIN?
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I miss that fresh, clean, modern, fine looking, tastfull setting from the Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Tutorial in Camera to Adobe Raw.
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Watch it, or Jeff will jump down your rabbit hole.
Michael
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Watch it, or Jeff will jump down your rabbit hole.
Michael
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Jeff's behavior has changed dramatically over the years (maybe not when he's with you Michael). Now he simply challenges those who don't agree with him to arm wrestling.
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Ah - nothing better than watching these through the Apple TV on the couch Great job guys, this is very interesting as usual!
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Hi!
I bought it just for the fun to see Jeff and Michael. I have Lightroom, so I actually don't use Camera Raw (except for calibration). Lightroom and Camera Raw have a lot in common, so the tutorial is very informative anyway.
The discussion with the Lightroom folks at Adobe was also quite fun and interesting.
Best regards
Erik
Any idea when we'll start hearing about the Camera Raw tutorial?
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Well, Mr. Reichman, next tutorial we meet the Digital Dog with the ColorMunki?
:-) Erik
Jeff's behavior has changed dramatically over the years (maybe not when he's with you Michael). Now he simply challenges those who don't agree with him to arm wrestling.
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I have Lightroom, so I actually don't use Camera Raw (except for calibration). Lightroom and Camera Raw have a lot in common, so the tutorial is very informative anyway.
I'm in the same camp, I use Lightroom now instead of ACR but I think there's more than enough good info here since they share the same processing pipeline. Just about everything discussed can be found in Develop so Lightroom users should not dismiss the video just because its about ACR.
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I figured that would surface from you (assuming that you actually purchased the video, that's good). You guys don't agree. And there's nothing in the video with respect to what Jeff is describing that dilutes what he shows for this level of audience. Do we really need to go down this rabbit hole of semantics AGAIN?
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Of course, I purchased the video (sales order number #31598) and do not appreciate any implication to the contrary. Jeff is a recognized expert in Camera Raw and I have learned much from his revision of the ACR book and think the tutorial is excellent thus far and would recommend it to others.
Even though he knows quite a bit more about digital photography than I do, I can occasionally point out an error in logic or fact in areas that I have studied.
Bill
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Of course, I purchased the video (sales order number #31598) and do not appreciate any implication to the contrary.
Chill Bill. I wasn't implying anything other than its good you purchased the video, as did I. Its possible you got a clip or someone provided you the context you mention.
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Can anyone comment on the material contained here relative to Jeff's book " Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3" ?
I found that book extremely informative and helpful. Is there much duplication and / or new material?
Thanks
Ken
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Watch it, or Jeff will jump down your rabbit hole.
Michael
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Is this because you went to Jeff's to do the taping? Not that anyone would diss Master Schewe's humble Chicago abode
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Yeah,
I guess that is because it's filmed in Jeff Schewes editing area and he keeps it dark.
Erik
I miss that fresh, clean, modern, fine looking, tastfull setting from the Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Tutorial in Camera to Adobe Raw.
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I guess that is because it's filmed in Jeff Schewes editing area and he keeps it dark.
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No diss on the Camera to Print video but I found some of the bkgnd distracting (cars moving about) and think the environment in Jeff's studio was a bit "cleaner" for my viewing experience.
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No diss on the Camera to Print video but I found some of the bkgnd distracting (cars moving about) and think the environment in Jeff's studio was a bit "cleaner" for my viewing experience.
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But a little under exposed?
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But a little under exposed?
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The background? Perhaps. But the foreground stuff looks fine on my display.
I think the idea is to expose to the left for backgrounds <g>
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Hi,
I would just mention that "Real World Camera raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3" by Bruce Fraser and Jeff Schewe is a good read. Recommended.
Best regards
Erik
I'm in the same camp, I use Lightroom now instead of ACR but I think there's more than enough good info here since they share the same processing pipeline. Just about everything discussed can be found in Develop so Lightroom users should not dismiss the video just because its about ACR.
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Can anyone comment on the material contained here relative to Jeff's book " Real World Camera Raw with Adobe Photoshop CS3" ?
I found that book extremely informative and helpful. Is there much duplication and / or new material?
Thanks
Ken
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An excellent question that would merit a reply. Anyone read & viewed both?
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An excellent question that would merit a reply. Anyone read & viewed both?
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I'm staying awake while watching the tutorial. I keep the book around for those days I have caffeine late.
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Ok, first things first. Have just finished watching the first three tutorials and, as expected, I wasn't disappointed - they were first class as usual so well done to both Michael and Jeff without forgetting all the backroom help of course. :-)
It's too late for this series of tutorials but could you perhaps note this request for the future? As I don't use my PC for silly games I have no need for additional plug-in type loud speakers and rely on the monitors in-built speakers. Using the OSD controls I have the volume set to 60% and for the odd few times where the output isn't sufficient I use the taskbar Realtek HD Audio Manager to up the volume a bit. Up until now the combination of these two has always sufficed and as with any speaker control I don't particuarly like setting the volume to 100% as this introduces noise. I have found that with both your latest series of tutorials i.e. Camera Raw and From Camera to Print I need to really jack up the volume and I wonder if in future you could kindly increase the recording volume a little bit. This will probably necessitate me reducing the speaker volume I know, but rather decrease it than increase it I say. Of course if I am the only one suffering from this problem then just take this post with a pinch of salt. :-(
As reference was made to Jeffs book - Camera Raw can I just add that I am almost half way through it and am finding it both extremely interesting as well as informative. My only critisism is in the style of writing used - subjective I know but I am finding forever changing from the first to the third person rather distracting. Perhaps this is as a result of him picking up the thread so to speak, I don't know, and of course only Jeff can answer that one.
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As reference was made to Jeffs book - Camera Raw can I just add that I am almost half way through it and am finding it both extremely interesting as well as informative. My only critisism is in the style of writing used - subjective I know but I am finding forever changing from the first to the third person rather distracting. Perhaps this is as a result of him picking up the thread so to speak, I don't know, and of course only Jeff can answer that one.
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In general, everything in the book was changed from 'I' to 'We' because the book went from a first person singular to plural. Even though 2 editors and myself tried very hard to go through the material and make sure we caught all of them, a few 'I's' slipped through except where it was intentional.
For example, in re-using Bruce's original Camera Calibrate method, I decided to maintain the 'I' and introduced the section has having been originally written by Bruce and updated only to maintain version 4.0 accuracy. So, that remained 'I' on purpose...
As to answering the question of whether or not the video and the book are redundant, I don't think so. I was very conscience of the fact that the video NOT merely be a video version of the book. In both cases, I tried to make sure the medium was used to the best advantage so some of the stuff in the book was a better medium for some things while the video medium was better for other things. So, to that extent, the design was to be complementary rather than either/or.
It should also be noted that a portion of the proceeds from the video will go to Bruce's estate...so, in the grand scheme of things, I would suggest people buy both. And, hey, if you feel like it, buy two or more copies...
:~)
P.S. I actually had several people at the recent Photoshop World buy a second copy so they could have me sign their book on the spot. I thought that was great!
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Thanks for clearing that up Jeff - I appreciate it must be quite difficult picking up on a book that has already been started. By the way, I'm one of those people that purchased the book twice but they were posted to me in Europe so no signature darn it. Anyway, a good friend and colleague is now also blessed with some good bed time reading - and yes, he's single.
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I'm very pleased with these instructive tutorials and would like to thank all involved in their realisation. From what I have seen so far, they are an excellent complement to and refresher for the earlier Lightroom tutorials and the highly informative Fraser and Schewe book.
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I'm very pleased with these instructive tutorials and would like to thank all involved in their realisation. From what I have seen so far, they are an excellent complement to and refresher for the earlier Lightroom tutorials and the highly informative Fraser and Schewe book.
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Exactly the same for me.
I could only add: the videos have strong pedagogical effectiveness also because they are entertaining!
Thank you all!
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Question: The "digital" gretag checker that Jeff had. Is there any possibility where you can find it?
I really want one, just as a reference you can see that when you have calibrated the camera that I done it right.
Just to add to the praise: Very nice tutorial and it really added to my other two I bought. You should almost sell them as a package Camera to print, Lightroom and the latest.
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I'm sold. Next rainy weekend I'm opening my wallet.
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Just finished watching the Camera Raw Tutorial, and I thought it was excellent.
Whilst I have Bruce & Jeff's book (Real World Camera Raw CS3), and read it a couple of times, the video is still definatly worthwhile.
On its own, the video is a great guide to Camera-Raw, however together with the Book, and other material it serves to as 'reinformente learning'. Its great to see the concepts in a different way and have them demonstrated 'live' as it were.
The inserts from Thomas Knoll about the what & how of the insides of CR are also very interesting.
Good work guys.
PS:
I still think someone needs to make a detailed tutorial on curves, together with discussion on exactly how they affect images, and how to achive various 'improvments' on a wide range of images. Curves have to be one of the most powerful, and most confusing editing tools out there.
This was covered ok in the CR tutorial, but I think it could be taken even further.
Regards
Mark.
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I've already commented how much I like the tutorial, and I learned a lot from both it and Jeff's book. Technical learning aside, I gain the most when the process of working through the image is demonstrated. I found this to be the most interesting and helpful parts of Jeff's book, and more so here. Video is a BIG improvement over the crappy tiny photos in a book, I don't know how anybody can see what is being described in the majority of the illustrations. You are completely at the mercy of the print quality. For those of us who never worked in a darkroom, or never took traditional photography classes, it's very difficult to grasp the visual when instruction is verbal.
Critique of an image, and describing the steps in processing and manipulating the image is a HUGE help. I would frankly love to see another tutorial that does just this.
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Question: The "digital" gretag checker that Jeff had. Is there any possibility where you can find it?
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BH Photo or ColourConfidence (in Europe) offer the X-Rite Digital ColorChecker SG.
Digital ColorChecker SG: ColorConfidence (http://shop.colourconfidence.com/product.php?xProd=1120) or BH Photo (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465295-REG/Xrite_MSDCCSG_Digital_ColorChecker_SG_Card.html).
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BH Photo or ColourConfidence (in Europe) offer the X-Rite Digital ColorChecker SG.
Digital ColorChecker SG: ColorConfidence (http://shop.colourconfidence.com/product.php?xProd=1120) or BH Photo (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465295-REG/Xrite_MSDCCSG_Digital_ColorChecker_SG_Card.html).
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Thanks mate. I have a such one. I think it was language mis-understanding.
I meant the colorchecker he had as image file in his computer. He showed it after he done the calibration. I thought it was nifty. As it probaly used some RGB values. Just as refence to see that I didn't make a complety mistake during the calibration
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Thanks mate. I have a such one. I think it was language mis-understanding.
I meant the colorchecker he had as image file in his computer. He showed it after he done the calibration. I thought it was nifty. As it probaly used some RGB values. Just as refence to see that I didn't make a complety mistake during the calibration
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Sorry, I misinterpreted your question.
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Sorry, I misinterpreted your question.
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After reading my own phrasing and how I expressed myself. I found it complete understandable. But thanks for answering as I reformulated my request to a more understandable request.
So no hard feelings, just being grateful.
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PS:
SA = South Australia :) its a state !.
Woodcutters is from the Barossa Valley, arguably the premier wine region of Australia.
Mark.
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...and it was very good indeed (even after pouring it through that fizzerator-thingy)
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...and it was very good indeed (even after pouring it through that fizzerator-thingy)
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Just finished the wine tasting segment! Never saw the "fizzerator thingy" before. Way cool! Don't know why all the fuss about picking the right wine though. Just have to make sure of the expiration date on the box.
Nice job everyone.
One quick comment though. Segment CR19_WorkflowOptions starts out stating that there are chapter markers for the segment. I found none listed. No big deal. Just pointing it out.
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I just make sure to defrost the wine about 30 min before I mix it...good to go!
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I have replaced the zip file which includes CR19_WorkflowOptions - somehow I had neglected to include the QuickTime chapter markers for this file. The actual content is unchanged but the chapter markers are now in the file.
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I've noticed several of the chapters in my downloads have synchronization problems with audio in advance of a stuttering video. Is this a download problem? Should I repeat the download?
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Just finished the tutorial. I was wrong about two cases of beer, I only needed to consume one (well, maybe I have to consume another to put into practice what I have learned).
I was somewhat hesistant to purchase to this after already watching the LR tutorial. However I'm glad I did. I learned some new techniques, Smart Objects for one (don't know why I never bothered with Smart Objects -well I guess I can be too busy to learn something that would make my life less complicated...)
It was a nice touch to include the interview with the adobe engineers, (now I know whom I've been offending with all my whinning and criticism...) But hey, these are real folks and not at all like the corporate types I've once thought.
Michael, you and Jeff have done a great job in getting folks like me up to speed. I used to be type whom would read the manuals and several books, but over the years, I've been too busy getting work done that I've neglected to keep up with the "what's new" in my field.
I find your approach to teaching very informative, as I also understand that you also are learning and have desire to improve your own workflow (rather than just teaching something in text book fashion). It's very much like some of my college professors, those whom worked their professions at day, and teach part time at night. They would speak from real life experiences and not just the black and white of some little known author.
I can't wait to see what's next.
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I can't wait to see what's next.
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Well, Michael and I are planning to get together "soon'ish" to shoot out Lightroom 2.0 video tutorial...that should be "interesting" for a variety of reasons.
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I've noticed several of the chapters in my downloads have synchronization problems with audio in advance of a stuttering video. Is this a download problem? Should I repeat the download?
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Upgrade your QuickTime & please read the [a href=\"http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml]FAQ[/url]
or you may have too big a picture on too old a computer - but very unlikely
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Watch it in VLC. Quicktime is the tool of the devil.
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Well, Michael and I are planning to get together "soon'ish" to shoot out Lightroom 2.0 video tutorial...that should be "interesting" for a variety of reasons.
Excellent !.
That gives you a chance to redeem yourself from the one failing of the Camera-Raw Video.... I was most disapointed at how conservative your shirt was this time around!
Now all you have to do is get Michael into one...
Seriously though, look forward to it.
Mark.
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I am surprised that no one has talked about the chat with the Camera Raw developers. Profiles are mentioned.
That is a big bit of news for some!
Also is the guy who did Raw Shooter Michael Johnson (sp) still in the team?
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Well, Michael and I are planning to get together "soon'ish" to shoot out Lightroom 2.0 video tutorial...that should be "interesting" for a variety of reasons.
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Oh yeah, almost forgot that. It's interesting, the Adobe engineers, discussed about an almost quarterly update of LR and ACR just to keep up with new cameras. Which also gives opportunity to introduce a few new features.
I quess that would mean we could be seeing future LR tutorial updates? (I think you should purchase a case of wine... your gonna need it
Pete
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Congratulations on this excellent tutorial. You guys seem ot get better and better with each tutorial project!!
I have a question:
In several sections of the tutorial, Jeff mentions that it is worthwhile to open and rework old files with newer versions of Adobe Raw, as the software’s ability to process older Raw-files usually improves with every update.
Does this then also imply that it would be useful to reprocess the older Raw-files with a newer version of the DNG-converter to translate them to DNG-files?
Cheers,
Achim
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Does this then also imply that it would be useful to reprocess the older Raw-files with a newer version of the DNG-converter to translate them to DNG-files?
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Not sure I follow you. DNG is just a "container" for the original Raw data. So, at least at this time, there's no reason to re-DNG a DNG, but there might very well be a reason to re-render a DNG in a newer version of ACR or LR as it gets better at rendering Raw data.
That isn't to say someday, there might be newer capabilities (say multiple rendering instructions) we might see in say V2 of DNG. But that's not the case today.
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Does this then also imply that it would be useful to reprocess the older Raw-files with a newer version of the DNG-converter to translate them to DNG-files?
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At this point, no...DNG is still at 1.1 and DNG Convertor has really only been updated for new cameras (except for a DNG/XMP bug in 4.4 which was fixed in 4.4.1). So, until such time as DNG undergoes a major rev, no particular reason to rerun DNG Convertor (unless you converted any DNGs with 4.4 specifically).
Even when DNG gets updated, old DNGs would be forwards compatible even in future versions of Camera Raw and Lightroom.
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I noticed Jeff saves his image files as Tiffs, and then saves those as zips. I can see where this can save a lot of storage space, but wonder if there may be any potential gotchas in the future. Also wonder if there are any other benefits to saving as a Tiff over a psd, or visa versa.
Considering Mr. Shewe's experience, I think it would be safe to follow his example.
Hopefully he'll weigh in on this, as I sure would like to lighten the load.
Thanks for any feedback.
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I noticed Jeff saves his image files as Tiffs, and then saves those as zips. I can see where this can save a lot of storage space, but wonder if there may be any potential gotchas in the future. Also wonder if there are any other benefits to saving as a Tiff over a psd, or visa versa.
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TIFF is a publicly documented format, PSD is a private Adobe format...the odds are much better that nothing will happen to TIFF while Adobe is free to change PSD at any time. I started using TIFF when the Photoshop engineers told Bruce Fraser and I that PSD was no longer the native file format of Photoshop and had become the native file format of Creative Suite (meaning all of the Adobe apps, not just Photoshop).
TIFF with ZIP compression is the smallest resulting 16 bit file...PSD saved WITHOUT Backwards Compatibility checked might be a bit smaller, but they won't work in all apps, even Adobe's own Lightroom.
So, I save edited raw files as DNG and edited raster files as TIFF for archival properties...
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So, I save edited raw files as DNG and edited raster files as TIFF for archival properties...
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Do you ingest your original raw files as DNG or keep them in their original native(camera) format until you've edited them in LR or ACR(then save as DNG)? Do you keep the any of the native(camera) files seperatly from DNG?
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TIFF is a publicly documented format, PSD is a private Adobe format...the odds are much better that nothing will happen to TIFF while Adobe is free to change PSD at any time. I started using TIFF when the Photoshop engineers told Bruce Fraser and I that PSD was no longer the native file format of Photoshop and had become the native file format of Creative Suite (meaning all of the Adobe apps, not just Photoshop).
TIFF with ZIP compression is the smallest resulting 16 bit file...PSD saved WITHOUT Backwards Compatibility checked might be a bit smaller, but they won't work in all apps, even Adobe's own Lightroom.
So, I save edited raw files as DNG and edited raster files as TIFF for archival properties...
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Thanks Jeff.
Once again, another paradigm shift in my work flow, though it does dovetail nicely with the fact I have to go back and redo just about everything thanks to ACR 4.4. The tutorial has been invaluable in getting up to speed.
Cheers
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Hi guys,
Joined the forum here to tell everyone involved with the ACR Tutorial how much I appreciate the quality of the work.
Very happy. The sharpening chapter, in particular, was a big help since some of my practices based on instinct were wrong. Shaved a lot of time off the learning curve.