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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: stevecoleccs on February 18, 2008, 04:26:52 pm
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Where's LR 2.0? When?
~ cole
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Where's LR 2.0? When?
~ cole
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It's been less than a year since 1.0 shipped, and since then we've had 3 updates. What's your rush?
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It's been less than a year since 1.0 shipped, and since then we've had 3 FREE updates!
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The last thing we want is Adobe shoving LR2 out the door before it's ready just because Aperture 2 has appeared. So far it's been steady, ground-breaking progress with LR- nobody wants it cocked up at this crucial stage because of a hasty and badly judged marketing strategy. I have a feeling LR2 will be worth waiting for but I, for one, don't want it until its ship-shape
Patience!
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i only want 2.0 if it does tethering. then i will trow out C1!
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Fair comment
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Scott kelby has a wish list for LR 2.0 on his blog, he claims Adobe have seen it and are taking it onboard. Most of the stuff he wants is pretty sensible, and fairly easy to impliment, whether Adobe will do it is another thing, although a lot of the things are needed to bring it properly up to speed for working pros. Wayne
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I feel that if Lightroom doesn't make a significant step forward with Version 2, the LR community will find it hard to swallow. Granted, it's not that long on the market in terms of, say, Photoshop, and the speed of development has been rapid, but its very success has built up a mood of anticipation and expectancy among a very demanding core of users.
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Scott kelby has a wish list for LR 2.0 on his blog, he claims Adobe have seen it and are taking it onboard. Most of the stuff he wants is pretty sensible, and fairly easy to impliment, whether Adobe will do it is another thing, although a lot of the things are needed to bring it properly up to speed for working pros. Wayne
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On that note, this from Scott's site, is worth mentioning
[a href=\"http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/941]I've Seen LR 2![/url]
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On that note, this from Scott's site, is worth mentioning
I've Seen LR 2! (http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/2008/archives/941)
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Was concerned about that list until I saw his additions ...
# Dual Monitor Support (I can’t believe I forgot this one, as it was one of the very things I went searching for when the first Beta version was released. Good catch!).
# Softproofing. (I know, I can’t believe I forgot that one either).
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adobe says it would take about 5 years and 5 more versions of LR to include the entire list....sorry...can't wait that long...
i switched to aperture for the moment...
because NOW it gives me:
tethered shooting
dual monitor support
softproofing
printing works!
on par conversions with LR (aperture 1.5 was way off)
lightbox
loupe
moire slider (that works well and simple)
plug-ins
all these features are here today and work!
what i am missing:
presets/looks (there is a workaround, but come on...)
history
snapshots (there is a workaround for this as well, but again...)
why i am switching: the features i need most are in aperture TODAY...no guessing when they might come....conversions are great...which is really the most important thing....it seems like aperture needs some fixes at this point, LR a whole list of features, by the end of the year aperture might have what i am asking for, LR definitely won't (according to them i might have to wait 5 years)...apple has proven to provide industry leading pro-apps (video, music) and with this release showed that they are serious about aperture as well....if anyone can take on adobe on that level, it is apple
also: the integration with apple os and all ilife/iapps is just amazing and this is only the beginning....adobe will never have this....
both apps are great, do yourself a favor and check them both out.....
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Buy me a Mac and I'll consider it.
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I'm a bit confused about the dual monitor support (it doesn't take a lot) LR works fine on my dual monitor setup, what am I missing? Wayne
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Does it run on more than one monitor at once?
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I would love to see a larger maximum file size supported, many of my larger images don't show up and I like to use LR as my browser and tweaker after converting to RAW in Flexcolor.
It would be useful to have support for CMYK files too!
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Yes it runs across both or either, I have tried it with the develop preset panel on one monitor and the rest on the other, works fine, I can just drag it to where I want. Wayne
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What I take as Dual Display support is an application whose ToolBars and Panels can be moved independenantly to a 2nd display; below shows VS panels that are normally "docked" inside the main window, moved to my 2nd Display:
(http://imagesbymurray.com/desktops.jpg)
Lightroom is limited to being stretched across displays like any other application
I'd also like to see:
-Soft Proofing
-External Plug-In support
-External Database Support - ie: the ability to "check out" a collection (as a catalog?) from a central database
-Finally, not limited to just LR, but across Adobe's line - having the scrollbar width respect system preferences, I find LR and PS scrollbars too narrow.
-John
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Where's LR 2.0? When?
~ cole
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In development! When it's ready!
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adobe says it would take about 5 years and 5 more versions of LR to include the entire list....sorry...can't wait that long...
i switched to aperture for the moment...
because NOW it gives me:
tethered shooting
dual monitor support
softproofing
printing works!
on par conversions with LR (aperture 1.5 was way off)
lightbox
loupe
moire slider (that works well and simple)
plug-ins
all these features are here today and work!
what i am missing:
presets/looks (there is a workaround, but come on...)
history
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I am tempted to switch, but AFAICT Aperture doesn't have CA correction even in 2.0, which I need for one of my favorite lenses. Thus I'm willing to give LR the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer. However, it's obvious that with their main competitor having released a 2.0, they will have to, too, if only for marketing purposes.
-Lars
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I suspect we'll get another update first, probably with a few new goodies to keep us happy. Wayne
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I am tempted to switch, but AFAICT Aperture doesn't have CA correction even in 2.0, which I need for one of my favorite lenses. Thus I'm willing to give LR the benefit of the doubt for a little while longer. However, it's obvious that with their main competitor having released a 2.0, they will have to, too, if only for marketing purposes.
-Lars
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actually...i was missing that as well...BUT i read that it IS built in, i think it is built into one of the other corrrection sliders and does it automatically? strange, i know...i tried one of my lenses with an image that i know had some CA and the conversion was clean...read up on it, i think it is in there....
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I'm not in any hurry to pay for an upgrade to Lightroom 2.0
There is a lot of functionality I'd like to see added but I'm willing to take it for free with Lightroom 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 etc.
The good news with Aperture 2.0 is the lowering of the price. That should put some pressure on Adobe not to bloat Lightroom's price.
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adobe says it would take about 5 years and 5 more versions of LR to include the entire list....sorry...can't wait that long...
i switched to aperture for the moment...
because NOW it gives me:
tethered shooting
dual monitor support
softproofing
printing works!
on par conversions with LR (aperture 1.5 was way off)
lightbox
loupe
moire slider (that works well and simple)
plug-ins
all these features are here today and work!
what i am missing:
presets/looks (there is a workaround, but come on...)
history
snapshots (there is a workaround for this as well, but again...)
why i am switching: the features i need most are in aperture TODAY...no guessing when they might come....conversions are great...which is really the most important thing....it seems like aperture needs some fixes at this point, LR a whole list of features, by the end of the year aperture might have what i am asking for, LR definitely won't (according to them i might have to wait 5 years)...apple has proven to provide industry leading pro-apps (video, music) and with this release showed that they are serious about aperture as well....if anyone can take on adobe on that level, it is apple
also: the integration with apple os and all ilife/iapps is just amazing and this is only the beginning....adobe will never have this....
both apps are great, do yourself a favor and check them both out.....
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Hi, Paul,
Two questions :
1/ Do you feel skin tones on A2 are more real than LR's ?
2/ Isn't A2 still much slower than LR ? (on a PPC G5 2x2,5 Ghz - 3 Gb RAM, I experimented real slowness).
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I sort of hate to see these features lists -- if they put them all in, an additional feature I'd like to see is <edit features list> so we can hide all the stuff we don't need. One of the things I like about LR is that it's not crapped up by six million things like Photoshop. You can do almost anything you want with Photoshop, but it takes a year of study to figure out which things you really need, and where they are, and to memorize the shortcuts, because there are so many of them. IMHO, LR might need a few more things, but give us five more versions, and it'll be just as bloated and unwieldy as Photoshop. As for Aperture...good luck.
JC