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Site & Board Matters => Luminous Landscape Video => Topic started by: Christopher Sanderson on February 06, 2008, 04:27:57 pm
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I have just posted LLVJ-17 in the store. You can find it here (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=174).
It is about 2/3 complete with an interview and portrait of Jay Maisel; a short travel piece featuring elephants in a S. African game reserve and a half hour chat with Ray Maxwell - colour scientist & colour management guru.
I will be posting a half hour interview with Jeff Schewe in a couple of days and then the Antarctica '05 travelogue in about three weeks.
If you converted your DVD subscription to Download and have coupons, download away!
There will also be a High Definition version available shortly - priced at $14.95
I have updated the Video FAQ (http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml#HD) to cover some of the more obvious questions regarding this High Definition product
Chris S
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I forget. How does the subscription thing work for this again? And can I put my subscription towards the high def version?
I think I found the email with my codes.
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The coupon codes will work only with the Standard Definition product - they will not work with the High Def product - sorry
Chris
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So I can't buy up? Okay. So get to issue 22 already so I can see what the high def product looks like.
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I think the fairest way to handle outstanding 'Standard Def' coupons is for subscribers to 'hand back' these regular coupons and exchange them for HD coupons on a 2:1 basis.
Chris S
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I have just posted LLVJ-17 in the store. You can find it here (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=174).
It is about 2/3 complete with an interview and portrait of Jay Maisel; a short travel piece featuring elephants in a S. African game reserve and a half hour chat with Ray Maxwell - colour scientist & colour management guru.
I will be posting a half hour interview with Jeff Schewe in a couple of days and then the Antarctica '05 travelogue in about three weeks.
If you converted your DVD subscription to Download and have coupons, download away!
There will also be a High Definition version available shortly - priced at $14.95
I have updated the Video FAQ (http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml#HD) to cover some of the more obvious questions regarding this High Definition product
Chris S
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SCWWEEEET
I feel like a junkie who just got told his 'fix' was coming
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Woops - I made an error on the HD version product - now corrected...
Part 2 of the Maisel piece pointed at the wrong file
Now it is correct
Chris S
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Woops - I made an error on the HD version product - now corrected...
Part 2 of the Maisel piece pointed at the wrong file
Now it is correct
Chris S
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Chris
I am still seeing 17H_Maisel1of2.mp4.zip twice and that is what I get when I try to download
Tom
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I have issued coupons to those who ordered the HD version of LLVJ-17 with the wrong file assignation. You should by now have received an email with a coupon for 're-purchase'
My apologies - too much tiny type for tired eyes
CS
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You rock!
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I think the fairest way to handle outstanding 'Standard Def' coupons is for subscribers to 'hand back' these regular coupons and exchange them for HD coupons on a 2:1 basis.
Chris S
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Hi Chris
I don't want to be a pain about this but....
Each coupon was valued at $11.45 when we swapped over from the DVD subscription. The value of the HD content is $14.95. If you follow the 1 for 2 swap that you suggest then this means that it will cost me $22.90 to purchase a $14.95 LLVJ. I am not sure that is fair.
I can imagine that this is a tough one for the LL team and that you don't want to create too much overhead. Surely a better way would be to multiply the total number of remaining coupons one has by $11.45 (the value of the coupon) and then divide it by $14.95 and that is how many HD coupons one should receive.
Using me as an example; I have 7 coupons at $11.45 each = $80.15
Divide $80.15 by $14.95 (cost of HD download) = 5.36. Therefore I should get 5 HD coupons.
To me this would be fairer. Under your proposal I would only get 3 coupons for my 7.
What do you think?
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Hi Chris
I don't want to be a pain about this but....
Each coupon was valued at $11.45 when we swapped over from the DVD subscription. The value of the HD content is $14.95. If you follow the 1 for 2 swap that you suggest then this means that it will cost me $22.90 to purchase a $14.95 LLVJ. I am not sure that is fair.
I can imagine that this is a tough one for the LL team and that you don't want to create too much overhead. Surely a better way would be to multiply the total number of remaining coupons one has by $11.45 (the value of the coupon) and then divide it by $14.95 and that is how many HD coupons one should receive.
Using me as an example; I have 7 coupons at $11.45 each = $80.15
Divide $80.15 by $14.95 (cost of HD download) = 5.36. Therefore I should get 5 HD coupons.
To me this would be fairer. Under your proposal I would only get 3 coupons for my 7.
What do you think?
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I agree. I'm in the same situation and 5 for 7 seems more fair. Otherwise the price of this HD
downloads become very expensive for those of us that have supported the site and paid for
a lot of subscriptions in advance.
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Customer support will be in touch directly with anyone that writes to them about this, but here's the explanation.
The new High Def product is in fact just that, it's a NEW product. It is premium priced (even though the content is the same as the standard def product) because the files are significantly larger and therefore our bandwidth costs on each download are higher.
The deal that was offered to DVD subscribers was a two for one swap – download coupons for DVD issues. That offer is still good for the product that it was offered for. As I just wrote, the Hi Def product is a new product and therefore not part of the original offer.
Now - it's possible to look at this and say, boy these guys are cheap! Why don't they just give us the Hi Def product since there's only $2.50 difference. Or, just charge me the $2.50 difference.
We wish it was that easy. Firstly, we're not being cheap. The coupon is really worth $9.95. For some people in Canada it appears to be worth $11.45 because we have had to build in taxes. For everyone else in the world that's not the case and the actual worth is $9.95 - the cost of our standard def download. There's a big differential between $10 and $15, and as stated, higher costs included in delivering the new product.
Also, it's simply not possible for us to charge the $2.50 (or $5) difference because of credit card handling and transaction processing costs. It costs a lot to handle credit cards online, and on purchases under $10 the percentage is outrageously high.
So after much thought, and considering all of the options open to us, we have no choice but to leave things the way they are; those with DVD to download coupons get two download issues of our standard definition product for each DVD paid for previously.
Hope this helps explain why we're doing what we're doing.
Michael
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... and then the Antarctica '05 travelogue in about three weeks.
Is there a special deal for participants in the Antarctica '05 expedition?
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Paul,
Not to put too fine a point on it, but how much cheaper than $9.95 can it get?
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Not....
I will start buying the HD versions when my coupons are gone.
So don't stop making them
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Are there HD versions planned for any of the older episodes? I'd purchase the Clyde Butcher episode again to get it in HD. (And probably that 7 parks in the rockies thing with the Kossack.)
The shows have been recorded in HD for a while now, right?
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Customer support will be in touch directly with anyone that writes to them about this, but here's the explanation.
The new High Def product is in fact just that, it's a NEW product. It is premium priced (even though the content is the same as the standard def product) because the files are significantly larger and therefore our bandwidth costs on each download are higher.
The deal that was offered to DVD subscribers was a two for one swap – download coupons for DVD issues. That offer is still good for the product that it was offered for. As I just wrote, the Hi Def product is a new product and therefore not part of the original offer.
Now - it's possible to look at this and say, boy these guys are cheap! Why don't they just give us the Hi Def product since there's only $2.50 difference. Or, just charge me the $2.50 difference.
We wish it was that easy. Firstly, we're not being cheap. The coupon is really worth $9.95. For some people in Canada it appears to be worth $11.45 because we have had to build in taxes. For everyone else in the world that's not the case and the actual worth is $9.95 - the cost of our standard def download. There's a big differential between $10 and $15, and as stated, higher costs included in delivering the new product.
Also, it's simply not possible for us to charge the $2.50 (or $5) difference because of credit card handling and transaction processing costs. It costs a lot to handle credit cards online, and on purchases under $10 the percentage is outrageously high.
So after much thought, and considering all of the options open to us, we have no choice but to leave things the way they are; those with DVD to download coupons get two download issues of our standard definition product for each DVD paid for previously.
Hope this helps explain why we're doing what we're doing.
Michael
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Thanks for the response Michael.
While I might not like it, I do see your point.
BTW, I hope to see you in Sydney! It's a shame you aren't coming to Brisbane. If I can get down to Sydney on the day I will come along.
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Hi Chris
Thanks for getting LLVJ-17 up. My sub is the "standard" version. Could make a short sample HD file available to see if my system will cope with the HD format?
Thanks again.
Bob Nicholson
Carlisle UK
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Hi Chris,
I have a subscription up to and incl. LLVJ #17, but my account shows only up to nr 16. Am I doing sth wrong here? How can I download it using my subscription/ coupons...
Thanks and regards from holland!
Giedo
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It is about 2/3 complete with an interview and portrait of Jay Maisel;
Wow, Jay's a really fascinating person shown in an interesting environment. I also enjoyed his pictures very much and would like to see more of his work.
This is why I love LLJV. You don't see this geeky stuff on TV. Well done!
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Thank you all again so much for doing the VJ - it's one of things I look most forward to viewing, besides a fresh print coming off the printer!
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I'm inclined to purchase "belt AND suspenders," i.e. both the "hard copy" DVD and the HD download later when I'm properly equipped. Since I'm a major fan of Jay Maisel, I'd like to know - will all of the material featuring him be included on the DVD?
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I'm inclined to purchase "belt AND suspenders," i.e. both the "hard copy" DVD and the HD download later when I'm properly equipped. Since I'm a major fan of Jay Maisel, I'd like to know - will all of the material featuring him be included on the DVD?
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Yes - but not in HD
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Hi Mike & Chris,
First thanks for yet another great production on the LLVJ!! As always I enjoyed this one (at least so far) very much!
I have one odd issue with the download files. The HD version of the elephant episode is not playable for me. The other segments/episodes play just fine so I don't think it's something "Vista related".
I have Windows Vista and am using Apple Quicktime to view each episode. I've even tried VLC Media Player and it too cannot successfully play the elephant segment/episode.
I have even tried it on my laptop (it also is running Vista) with no success.
Again the other segments/episodes play just fine on both computers so I don't think it's something "Vista related". Is anyone else experiencing this???
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It plays ok for me on XP using QT 7.4 - are you up to date?
I would try Vista for you - but my HD with Vista just self destructed. Oh well, no loss other than the drive! LOL
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Yes - but not in HD
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Jay Maisel will always be HD
I just finished watching the interview and all I can say is WOW! I've been a admirer of his work since the seventies, and this was one of the best interviews of him that I've seen since the old American Photographer artical back then. Great work Michael and Chris!
Now when are you going to meet up with Pete Turner for a one on one?
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I have one odd issue with the download files. The HD version of the elephant episode is not playable for me. The other segments/episodes play just fine so I don't think it's something "Vista related".
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It sounds as if the download is corrupted or incomplete. My suggestion is to go back to the download page of your account and try again.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, but how much cheaper than $9.95 can it get?
It's not about the $9.95, Michael. It's about the promise made in the expedition announcement:
We will, of course, be providing you with complimentary copies of whatever video or print material comes out of this.
Before I click on the store link to buy LLVJ #17, I just want to know what your plans are. If this promise is going to be fulfilled by sending out copies of LLVJ #17, then it would be silly of me to also buy a copy.
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I've experienced a problem purchasing the HD download. It didn't matter as I had 5 coupons remaining on my subscription. However there is only one spot for a coupon on purchasing the HD download instead of 2. So when I entered the single coupon, it rejected it. However when I entered the same coupon into the regular download it worked instantly. No big deal as I was going to get stuck using a single coupon once anyway but for future issues this problem should be cleared up.
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I've experienced a problem purchasing the HD download. It didn't matter as I had 5 coupons remaining on my subscription. However there is only one spot for a coupon on purchasing the HD download instead of 2. So when I entered the single coupon, it rejected it. However when I entered the same coupon into the regular download it worked instantly. No big deal as I was going to get stuck using a single coupon once anyway but for future issues this problem should be cleared up.
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The way to do it is to send the unused coupons to customer support and ask to get them exchanged for coupons for the HD version. I did and got a fast reply and new coupons. Very good service!
And the HD is worth the extra cost IMHO. And the content is good, thank you Michael an Chris!
Looking forward to thew Antarctica segments!
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It's not about the $9.95, Michael. It's about the promise made in the expedition announcement:
Before I click on the store link to buy LLVJ #17, I just want to know what your plans are. If this promise is going to be fulfilled by sending out copies of LLVJ #17, then it would be silly of me to also buy a copy.
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Sorry Paul. I'd forgotten about that. It's been a few years.
Please drop a note to customer support and mention that you were a member of the expedition and they will provide you with a coupon for a free download or DVD. Your choice.
Copy this in your email so that they know what this is about.
Regards,
Michael
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It sounds as if the download is corrupted or incomplete. My suggestion is to go back to the download page of your account and try again.
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I'm having the same problem (Vista 64-bit with Quicktime). Never had it before and have downloaded everything there is. There are two MAC files there in the zip file and it says there's already a file with that name when I am extracting and to rename it but there is no way to do so that I can see.
Please let us know what to try (I know, I know...switch to a Mac but not possible at the moment!).
Thanks!
Phil
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Occasionally in some Windows environments, unzipping the download file will leave a tiny file with the same name as the real video file. This is due to the original having been compressed on a Mac. It is quite safe to trash, erase or overwrite the tiny file. ...this is mentioned on the FAQ...
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Occasionally in some Windows environments, unzipping the download file will leave a tiny file with the same name as the real video file. This is due to the original having been compressed on a Mac. It is quite safe to trash, erase or overwrite the tiny file. ...this is mentioned on the FAQ...
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I tried opening the zip folder and deleting the file and the folder and it wouldn't do it. I'll try downloading again and renaming one of them, then extracting. After the error message, the file showed in green instead of black, and would open with no video, skipping sound and then a buffer error. Very weird as it's the *only* LL download file I've ever had an issue with, all with the software and computer.
Thanks,
Phil
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Occasionally in some Windows environments, unzipping the download file will leave a tiny file with the same name as the real video file. This is due to the original having been compressed on a Mac. It is quite safe to trash, erase or overwrite the tiny file. ...this is mentioned on the FAQ...
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Chris - As an update, the other files do not have the _MACOS file and folder, therefore there is no problem with the extraction. The Elephants zip does and I cannot find a way to delete, rename or otherwise get around them, making the extraction impossible.
I do not know if it can be reposted without those files but unless someone has a workaround, those of us with Vista are SOL. As none of the other files have these, it shouldn't be a problem to repost the file to match the others that do work.
Thanks for your help Chris, sorry to be a bother.
Phil
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Hmmm - strange since yours is the only reported problem. But I will replace the file and will let you know when I have. (It takes me an age to upload with a satellite connection)
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Hmmm - strange since yours is the only reported problem. But I will replace the file and will let you know when I have. (It takes me an age to upload with a satellite connection)
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Thanks Chris and I do very much appreciate your assistance. I'll let you know how it works and again, sorry to put you through more work!
Phil
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I run vista64 and does not have the problem.
Just select all the files and let it extract to HERE.
It will ask to overwrite and say yes.
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Thanks Chris and I do very much appreciate your assistance. I'll let you know how it works...
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OK, so it is now uploaded again. I have not changed the video file, it is simply recompressed. Let me know...
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OK, so it is now uploaded again. I have not changed the video file, it is simply recompressed. Let me know...
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Chris - It worked like a champ...thanks! I cannot imagine why those _MACOS files did what they did but with the new upload and every other LL download, I've never had this issue come up.
Anyway, thanks again for being so helpful and responsive. I've learned a tremendous amount from the LL site and the videos and your efforts (and Michael's of course) are not unappreciated!
Best regards,
Phil
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No problem - Stuffit has never been the same since Smith Micro....
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Chris, Michael,
is there a date for the dvd to start getting sent out ?
cheers John
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Chris, Michael,
is there a date for the dvd to start getting sent out ?
cheers John
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No, but my guess is in about 4 weeks - I am still waiting for the music to be completed fr the Antarctica piece
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Now - it's possible to look at this and say, boy these guys are cheap!
Cheap? Never. An excellent value, yes.
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The Introduction to LLVJ-17 Download HD is now available
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The Introduction to LLVJ-17 Download HD is now available
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Now you're just toying with us.
Where's my burrito*?!?
Where's my burrito?!?
Where's my burrito?!?
Where's my burrito?!?
Where's my burrito?!?
(* antarctic segment.)
Thank you for the update. Just one segment left?
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Thank you for the update. Just one segment left?
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The final music is being sent to me in the next 24 hours - after that I will spend a couple of days doing the final mix and then the encode - should be up sometime this coming weekend
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I just want to complement Chris on the introduction to LLVJ-17. Using the drive-in screen to showcase the segments of the journal was very clever. Well done!
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Thanks Geoff - I had a little fun there. No point in having a blank screen
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Antarctica is up!
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Chris, fantastic!
Stephen
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Well done, Chris!! Such a wonderfully done production that brings back so many fond memories. Trip (s) of a lifetime. Thank you.
Scott Oslund
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The Antartica section is absolutely fantastic. I almost got seasick…
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Antarctica is up!
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I bought and downloaded the Video Journal yesterday and watched part of this segment during my lunch break. I couldn't help but picture you standing on the deck of the ship, bracing yourself, but doing your best to keep the camera level with the horizon! It gave me a chuckle. I wouldn't have been able to do it--I would have been too sick.
I did manage to watch the entire elephants segment. Those little ones brought a smile to my face. I wanted to step right into the screen and play with them! I can't wait for the weekend so I can watch the rest of it.
Donna (Shootergirl)
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I couldn't help but picture you standing on the deck of the ship, bracing yourself, but doing your best to keep the camera level with the horizon! It gave me a chuckle.[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=182950\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
It's all in the knees... because both hands were busy gripping the camera!
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I find it remarkably irritating that I can never watch these things via quicktime. Does quicktime actually run for anyone else. This isn't the first windows machine I've had that chokes constantly trying to run that.
Well worth the effort to install VLC media player, however.
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I find it remarkably irritating that I can never watch these things via quicktime. Does quicktime actually run for anyone else. This isn't the first windows machine I've had that chokes constantly trying to run that.
Well worth the effort to install VLC media player, however.
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I have VLC player installed; but, I still watched all of these (and the LL LTRM tutorials, and the LL CTP tutorials) all in Quicktime (simply because that is what auto-launches when I click the files).
I have had no problems what so ever.
Athlon64 X2 4400, 3 Gigs Memory, Windows XP SP2, GeForce6600 Vid Card.
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No probs with anything in quicktime here either.
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No problem with Quicktime on my Windows XP neither.
BTW I prefer it because it complies with the monitor profile., at least based on a check I did a while ago.
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It crashes for me under vista a lot. It also just likes to run poorly. Maybe I'll turn (I cannot type. Really wish I would have worn gloves while shoveling the driveway this morning.) off kaspersky before installing it next time.
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Well, it's not the source file.
Try running in safe mode, it's probably something else you have running/installed. Try reinstalling.
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Just a bit of congratulations on the HD version. Well done! I also notice that Chris' videography has improved significantly from the early days. The videography is a pleasure to watch even on its own. The elephant romp was particularly entertaining and so are the from the ship scenes. With perhaps just the right amount of compression. I watch on a 70" screen via a PS3. Works like a charm. I just burn a DVD with the mpg4 files and slip it into the PS3. While the HD is not quite up to out-of-camera quality, the 3 to 4 GB are already a major hassle for me to download After waiting patiently for my ADSL to download at 300 Kbaud, I decided to upgrade to a 1 Mbaud G3+ connection at enormous cost. That goes faster, but GBytes are still GB. No way around the many hours downloading in the boonies of Oman. So please continue keeping each volume under the capacity of one DVD (4.7 GB). I continue to be amazed at how high an HD quality I can get from a $1000 Canon HV20 but to retain that quality level I need to use mpg2 (at 12 GB per hour). So the mpg4 versions are plenty nice considering the circumstances. Perhaps in the future you guys may consider enabling us to download all the episodes in one overnight run? I now have to download one episode and then tickle the PC to get the next episode. You did tell us not to do simultaneous downloads, and I am trying to be a good boy...
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I'm a charter subscriber to the VJ. Kudos for the HD version!
After downloading the VJ-17 HD, I dragged the files to iTunes on my MacPro and via the marvel of AppleTV, I enjoy the HD quality on my 52" plasma TV in my family room. Aaahh, life is good.
Michael and Chris, thanks for the good stuff!
Bud James
North Wales, PA
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Thanks Bud and everyone,
I just installed an Apple TV this past weekend and watched the Antarctica segment on my 42" plasma screen for the first time. It really is quite something, isn't it? Even I'm impressed.
Download video has come an awfully long way in just the past year or so, and it makes our decision to move away from shipping plastic discs even more compelling.
Michael
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The fun of the LLVJ was it would arrive with the post, and you could just pop it in the DVD player and watch it, all or part, then file and review later. And watching it on a decent Sony Bravia widescreen TV (even with standard DVD resolution) made the whole experience even more fun. It was a treat that dropped on your doormat. No post processing was required.
Now the subscription renewals have been stopped and the pressure is on to - do what, download, burn to some spare DVD using some other software to convert for TV use? Or watch huddled over your PC or laptop monitor. Vista problems, Apple TV...er, no thanks.
It does not matter if download is "simple" (something of a subjective test); for me it defeats the object. Sometimes form is as important as content. Keep the DVD option and reinstate subscription renewals is my preference.
I'm upset
Quentin
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The fun of the LLVJ was it would arrive with the post, and you could just pop it in the DVD player and watch it, all or part, then file and review later. And watching it on a decent Sony Bravia widescreen TV (even with standard DVD resolution) made the whole experience even more fun. It was a treat that dropped on your doormat. No post processing was required.
Now the subscription renewals have been stopped and the pressure is on to - do what, download, burn to some spare DVD using some other software to convert for TV use? Or watch huddled over your PC or laptop monitor. Vista problems, Apple TV...er, no thanks.
It does not matter if download is "simple" (something of a subjective test); for me it defeats the object. Sometimes form is as important as content. Keep the DVD option and reinstate subscription renewals is my preference.
I'm upset
Quentin
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV. It's great! Better than DVDs because I can just call it up from the menu any time that I want.
Bud James
North Wales, PA
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV. It's great! Better than DVDs because I can just call it up from the menu any time that I want.
Bud James
North Wales, PA
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Reading a little about AppleTV it sounds as if I would have to spend somewhere between US $230 and $300 just for the box, then buy separately all the cables needed to hook it to my TV, or better yet to the HD converter box that I will be forced to buy soon, for maybe another $50 (cables for the AppleTV). Once I have that in my living room, I still need to download the videos from LL onto my PC, and then get the files from the PC (in my home office) to the AppleTV (in the living room).
So I bore some holes through floors or walls and string Cat 5E cable from my router to the AppleTV. Does the AppleTV have a USB port so I could transfer the files to it using a memory stick? Probably not.
In any case, it sure would take a lot of additional expense and effort to make the downloads as convenient to use as the old DVDs. So I'm with Quentin on this, but I realize that I am mourning the passing of the buggy whip.
Eric
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Apple TV is wireless. And it's worth every penny!
If you are a NAPP member it's only $215 shipped!
I use Apple TV to stream my entire movie collection - no more 2500 DVD cases and shelf units in my living room - now I have a big DROBO and everything is at my fingertips!
Watching the LLVJ is a nice side benefit too
It's also great for music - now I have my whole 70GB collection available on my living room theater surround system, not just my computer system and ipod!
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV.
I fully second Bud's suggestion. I was skeptical but purchased a refurbished one for $125 (Swiss Apple Store) and I like it very much. I can stream wirelessly from other computers or store content on it. Quality is great, even on a large screen.
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I suggest that you considering buying AppleTV. It's great! Better than DVDs because I can just call it up from the menu any time that I want.
Bud James
North Wales, PA
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No chance. I have a perfectly good DVD player. As I said, I don't want the complication. The solution is not for me to buy my way out of a problem that need not exist in the first place.
Quentin
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I find it remarkably irritating that I can never watch these things via quicktime. Does quicktime actually run for anyone else. This isn't the first windows machine I've had that chokes constantly trying to run that.
Well worth the effort to install VLC media player, however.
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I have the opposite problem. LLVJ plays OK with Quicktime on my laptop but Quicktime completely takes over once it is installed -- even if all file associations are unchecked during installation of Quicktime. As a result, Quicktime completely ruins all my normal business file associations. So I have to install Quicktime just for LLVJ and then uninstall Quicktime afterward. Previously, I used AoA DVD Creator to make a DVD but it no longer works with LLVJ files either. Watching LLVJ has become a "procedure" that is a bit tedious.
What is VLC media player? Could this be the answer to my problem?
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I have the opposite problem. LLVJ plays OK with Quicktime on my laptop but Quicktime completely takes over once it is installed -- even if all file associations are unchecked during installation of Quicktime. As a result, Quicktime completely ruins all my normal business file associations. So I have to install Quicktime just for LLVJ and then uninstall Quicktime afterward. Previously, I used AoA DVD Creator to make a DVD but it no longer works with LLVJ files either. Watching LLVJ has become a "procedure" that is a bit tedious.
What is VLC media player? Could this be the answer to my problem?
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If you are in Windows just download the latest version of Windows Media Player and it plays the HD versions very nicely. Older versions of WMP may not.
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For those windows users that want to put it on DVD discs This program works great - just drag and drop the segments and it makes you a regular DVD. http://www.dvdflick.net/ (http://www.dvdflick.net/)
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What is VLC media player? Could this be the answer to my problem?
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Works great for me on XP and Vista
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No chance. I have a perfectly good DVD player. As I said, I don't want the complication. The solution is not for me to buy my way out of a problem that need not exist in the first place.
Quentin
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There is, admittedly, an inconvenience at your end. You have to download this excellent content, burn it to DVD and then play it. The truth of the matter is that you can probably end up with the content faster doing this than you would if you waited for the DVD in the mail.
Now contrast your inconvenience against the inconvenience involved in the old system. The wonderful guys producing everything had to arrange for replication of a vast number of copies, determine the correct postage to each and every destination, and then send them all out while hoping that not too many of them would either go missing en route or get damaged prior to arrival.
One situation has a limited inconvenience distributed to people who do not watch the show on a display connected to a computer. The other situation concentrates a lot of inconvenience and cost on a small group of people.
--dilip
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There is, admittedly, an inconvenience at your end. You have to download this excellent content, burn it to DVD and then play it. The truth of the matter is that you can probably end up with the content faster doing this than you would if you waited for the DVD in the mail.
Now contrast your inconvenience against the inconvenience involved in the old system. The wonderful guys producing everything had to arrange for replication of a vast number of copies, determine the correct postage to each and every destination, and then send them all out while hoping that not too many of them would either go missing en route or get damaged prior to arrival.
One situation has a limited inconvenience distributed to people who do not watch the show on a display connected to a computer. The other situation concentrates a lot of inconvenience and cost on a small group of people.
--dilip
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I don't care if Chris has to swim lake ontario with a dingy full of DVDs strapped to his behind if it means I get what I want at the least inconvenience to me. It's all about me.
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I don't care if Chris has to swim lake ontario with a dingy full of DVDs strapped to his behind if it means I get what I want at the least inconvenience to me. It's all about me.
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Well, the customer IS supposed to come first...
As it is, for me it's a matter of cost. I'd have to subscribe to some rather expensive (to me) high-speed internet to make downloading that much content practical. I don't consider burning it to DVD that big a deal (once I do it a few times - since I haven't done such before, I'd need to learn how), but I would morn the loss of the nice artwork on the DVD itself. So when my current subscription expires, I'll be totally dependent on a certain friend (he knows who he is on here!) whose has high-speed to download and burn the content to DVD for me, or hope my employer doesn't mind me downloading several GB.
Until high-speed internet becomes practical and reasonable (in cost) for the vast majority of us, I do think completely dropping the DVD option is a bit premature. The infrastructure just isn't quite "there" yet.
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Oh, it's there. The vast majority of the US has at LEAST one high speed option.
Now if it's worth it for someone to purchase, that's another story. Pretty much everyone I know under 65 has high speed and has had it for some time. My parents are still holding out on Juno, because all they do is casual surfing and email a few times a week. Pushing 70, I think that's a fine option for them.
Most working professionals view high speed internet as vital as the telephones was for the past 50 years in the home.
If you cater your business model to those on dial-up, you are a dinosaur, catering to the minority.
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Oh, it's there. The vast majority of the US has at LEAST one high speed option.
Now if it's worth it for someone to purchase, that's another story. Pretty much everyone I know under 65 has high speed and has had it for some time. My parents are still holding out on Juno, because all they do is casual surfing and email a few times a week. Pushing 70, I think that's a fine option for them.
Most working professionals view high speed internet as vital as the telephones was for the past 50 years in the home.
If you cater your business model to those on dial-up, you are a dinosaur, catering to the minority.
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Actually, it's more an option for those with higher disposable income (in my view). I want to see it become as cheap as dial-up and is truly viewed as a vital service, rather than simply reserved for those willing to pay the high price for it. And unfortunately, until it becomes regulated like current land-line telephone service is, I think the current providers are going to continue their current "price-gouging". (Sadly, there just isn't enough competition yet, and there won't ever be as long as only a couple of monopolies control the access.)
And there are still many areas in the US (and a lot more in the rest of the world), who simply don't have the option at all yet. So no, I don't think it is "there" yet.
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Many areas don't have the option, yes. Many, MANY more areas do have the option.
Just because you don't want to pay for it doesn't mean it's not there.
Sure, if you live in bumfudge Iowa you are limited. In more poulated areas, there is plenty of competition. I'm not near any major city, just a regular ol suburb in a little unincorporated city.
I get cable modem, two DSL and Verizon FIOS.
Serivces start at $19.95 and that's fast enough for any single user, a multitude faster than dialup.
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Many areas don't have the option, yes. Many, MANY more areas do have the option.
Just because you don't want to pay for it doesn't mean it's not there.
Sure, if you live in bumfudge Iowa you are limited. In more poulated areas, there is plenty of competition. I'm not near any major city, just a regular ol suburb in a little unincorporated city.
I get cable modem, two DSL and Verizon FIOS.
Serivces start at $19.95 and that's fast enough for any single user, a multitude faster than dialup.
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"Want to pay for" I think is a matter of opinion. Ability to pay for isn't for way too many.
If that rate is what you pay, then I envy you. Absolute cheapest where I live (major metro area) is $32 for realistic DSL ($29 if you commit for 2 years - with no upgrades). Cable is somewhere around $45-50. I'd much rather pay an extra $10 to Luminous Landscape and receive a DVD, then to pay an extra ~$600 over 18 months to a monopoly just for the ability to download it. BTW, that $$$ will buy some extra camera gear, or to actually go somewhere interesting and use it.
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I pay $45 for a much faster service than the basic and am more than happy to do so, it's enough bandwidth to do anything I want to. I certainly don't have it just to download the LLVJ, and if that's the only thing you can think of to use a modern broadband connection for, than I completely agree it's a waste of resources for you to join us. You are obviously in the same group as my parents, relegated to casual email and light surfing only on the internet.
I use it for MUCH more than that, and it is critical to my life, being a large part of my business and income, along with entertainment.
If you are seriously saying that $45 or so a month breaks your budget, then I don't know what to tell you. I don't mean to make fun of you if that's so, but man that's tight!
Somehow I doubt most people that are down to that constrained a budget are concerned with a LLVJ in the first place. More like, getting enough grocery or gas money for the month.
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I pay $45 for a much faster service than the basic and am more than happy to do so, it's enough bandwidth to do anything I want to. I certainly don't have it just to download the LLVJ, and if that's the only thing you can think of to use a modern broadband connection for, than I completely agree it's a waste of resources for you to join us. You are obviously in the same group as my parents, relegated to casual email and light surfing only on the internet.
I use it for MUCH more than that, and it is critical to my life, being a large part of my business and income, along with entertainment.
If you are seriously saying that $45 or so a month breaks your budget, then I don't know what to tell you. I don't mean to make fun of you if that's so, but man that's tight!
Somehow I doubt most people that are down to that constrained a budget are concerned with a LLVJ in the first place. More like, getting enough grocery or gas money for the month.
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Dude, I could pay it if I wanted to, but I'm talking about more than just myself. I'm very glad for you that you make enough that you can pay the inflated rates that we're being charged. Granted, I don't have a business that depends on fast access, but for me, I personally think it just isn't worth it the price the providers are asking (yet). Compare the US to other first-world countries like Japan or those in Europe. From what I've been told, they get far faster interest for a lot less money. So...why is this country so expensive? Why isn't there more competition? Why isn't it priced like phone service, but more like a "premium" service?
Obviously I'd use broadband/DSL for more than just downloading LLVJ. But there's nothing I HAVE to have it for right now. You also seem to making the error in assuming that high-speed is as common and normal as land-line phone service, that every Tom Dick and Harry has it, and I'm saying that just isn't so. Access doesn't count in my book. Actual subscribers does.
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Actually, it's more an option for those with higher disposable income (in my view).
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Interesting. I first went to DSL when it became cheaper than Extra Phone Line + Dial-Up. I had previously discovered that I was online enough that people couldn't reach me by phone consistently.
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I have FIOS, 15MPS down and 15MPS up. It rocks! Much better than the Compcast service that I had before. $49.99/month.
Bud James
North Wales. PA
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One situation has a limited inconvenience distributed to people who do not watch the show on a display connected to a computer. The other situation concentrates a lot of inconvenience and cost on a small group of people.
--dilip
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Its not a question of convenience, its question of cost. I don't mind paying more for a finished ready-to-play product. I don't subscribe to the view that everything has to be "downloaded". I spend most of my working life in front of a computer and I like the idea that I do (or did) not have to engage in a download-and-DIY exercise in order to enjoy the excellent LLVJ.
Quentin
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It does not matter if download is "simple" (something of a subjective test); for me it defeats the object. Sometimes form is as important as content. Keep the DVD option and reinstate subscription renewals is my preference.
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I'm with Quentin on this one. Not everyone wants to live on the bleeding edge of technology. While I *could* do it, I'm really not interested in downloading huge amounts of video content for hours then jumping through hoops just to watch it.
I want simple. I just want to pop a LLVJ DVD into the player and watch it. But after my subscription runs out (I didn't take the option to switch from DVD to download), I guess I'll have to wait until downloading content is as easy as viewing a DVD.
Paul
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Just my thoughts - but...I prefer download ANY day.
Instead of waiting weeks at the mercy of the post office - I can download and enjoy immediately.
If I want to play it in my theatre [as I often do] then I just burn a DVD. I store a copy on my server and can access it from any networked PC in the house - or even via VPN from my office if I so desire. Its a helluva lot more convenient than waiting for a plastic disc in my opinion. And its a helluva lot easier than trying to find the DVD amongst my collection.
Good on Michael for embracing the technology for download. And good on LL for offering a 2:1 changeover deal.
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No, but my guess is in about 4 weeks - I am still waiting for the music to be completed fr the Antarctica piece
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Chris,
any new time frame for when the LL VJ17 DVD will be getting sent out ?
Cheers John
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any new time frame for when the LL VJ17 DVD will be getting sent out ?[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=195072\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
All DVDs were shipped mid-April. Contact () if you have not yet received yours
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All DVDs were shipped mid-April. Contact () if you have not yet received yours
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Thanks for the reply Chris. I will email customer services and find out whats up.
Cheers John