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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Richowens on January 12, 2008, 04:59:06 pm
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Rob,
I was, until my retirement, a Chevrolet Technician for 24 years.
To the best of my recollection the transition to a "gold" plated bowtie, as the emblem is affectionately called, started late 70s to early 80s and was pretty much complete by the mid 90s. The blue was discontinued with each older body and gold introduced on its replacement.
It had nothing to do with the acquisition of Daewoo, rather a design and cost of production decision.
Time has blurred my memory, but I hope this satisfies your curiosity.
Rich
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Rob,
I was, until my retirement, a Chevrolet Technician for 24 years.
To the best of my recollection the transition to a "gold" plated bowtie, as the emblem is affectionately called, started late 70s to early 80s and was pretty much complete by the mid 90s. The blue was discontinued with each older body and gold introduced on its replacement.
It had nothing to do with the acquisition of Daewoo, rather a design and cost of production decision.
Time has blurred my memory, but I hope this satisfies your curiosity.
Rich
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Hi Rich -
Thanks a lot for your post about the change from blue to gold. I was curious as to why this should have happened and now I know: cost!
Another thing that always used to impress me with US cars, and also others, was the chrome writing used for the various names. Some makers in some countries have tried to cut costs (I think!) by using small badges with the name written within that; however, nothing matches the effect of seeing the name bold against the body colour.
Great art in autos - just takes a little looking and there it is, thought perhaps today´s models take more looking!
Another thing that I have learned today is the bowtie reference - I had always thought of it as a cross with an oddly shaped horizontal... but bowtie fits perfectly.
Thanks again - Rob C
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Hmmm. I think I just wandered into the "Luminous Auto" forum.
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Maybe it's true Eric
(http://bmwz.woodford.ch/misc/BMWE61M5/20071001BMWE61M5Meggen005.jpg)
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Hmmm. I think I just wandered into the "Luminous Auto" forum.
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I haven't bought a car that cost as much as some of the MFDB's Michael has purchased.
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I haven't bought a car that cost as much as some of the MFDB's Michael has purchased.
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But they probably take better pictures than most cars --- even than Greg's spiffy Beamer.
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An M variant is a very dangerous machine: it eats as well as drinks fuel!
I had a sports car for two years - we used to park it in the most distant parts of any carpark in order to avoid door-bumping vandals, but, instead, it seemed to function like a magnet and there would always be another piece of s..t right up close beside it.
Good luck and many happy miles!
Rob C
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(http://www.visual-vacations.com/images/2004-08-26-0126.jpg)
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Okay, Jonathan, I give up: where´s the bowtie?
Rob C
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I haven't bought a car that cost as much as some of the MFDB's Michael has purchased.
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That, Mr P, is because you bought such an expensive cat.
Rob C
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Okay, Jonathan, I give up: where´s the bowtie?
Rob C
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Aha! I see it now! Cunningly disguised in red, I note! Good one.
Rob C
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Okay, Jonathan, I give up: where´s the bowtie?
Rob C
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Here's one for you....
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Okay, Jonathan, I give up: where´s the bowtie?
Actually, there isn't one in this image. 50 bonus points for the first individual to correctly identify the make/model of the vehicle, though.
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Here's one for you....
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Now that´s the proper kind of logo!
On the down side, it makes me wonder why the hell I ever wash the Escort...
Rob C
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I haven't bought a car that cost as much as some of the MFDB's Michael has purchased.
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With me, my bicycles tend to be worth more than my cars. Don't see much point in spending lots of money on something that will end up stuck in traffic just as easily as a 'rent a wreck'.
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With me, my bicycles tend to be worth more than my cars. Don't see much point in spending lots of money on something that will end up stuck in traffic just as easily as a 'rent a wreck'.
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So you like to drive futt futt too?
I hate to drive a piece of crap, but economics makes it certain that I shall continue to do so for too damn long. No, actually, that´s not totally true. What is totally true, is that living in a land cursed by tourism, my poor old car gets mugged by couldn´t-care-less rental drivers every day of its life, even parked at home. I can count more different colours on the doors than ever came as standard issue in the Ford catalogue That´s one of the reasons I used always to buy black: easy to cover up without going to a garage. I wish I had never departed from that philosophy!
Rob C
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So if you could persuade all the local rental companies to rent only black, too, you'd be all set.
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Collecting cars is a bigger passion than dare I say photography for me! My enjoyment of sports cars is almost certainly what prevented me from a career in photography.
Asked by friends to square my two passions I explain that I get the same warm fuzzy and intense feeling from picking up and then hearing the shutter on my F5 as I do from exiting Eau Rouge (Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium) with full throttle in one of Stuttgart's finest.
One thing that baffles me is that despite my love of cars I just can't connect with them as a photographic subject. I spent a couple of day with a photographer for the UK's leading performance magazine and though inspirational to see the level of professionalism it just didn't inspire me to create images of cars.
[span style=\'font-size:8pt;line-height:100%\']p.s. The Nikon F5 IS the best camera ever made [/span]
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So if you could persuade all the local rental companies to rent only black, too, you'd be all set.
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That, Eric, is a damn good idea! But only for next time. As I indicated, I abandoned that philosophy last time around and bought blue.
Rob C
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Greg - I can´t say about the F5, but the F4s sucked (for me) because it always took about three attempts each time I had to load film. I eventually sold it and all the Nikon stuff for a misadventure in Pentax 67 territory, after which I reverted to Nikon but to a brand new F3, one of the last in the line. It is a beautiful camera which only needed the exposure metering system of the D200 to make it perfect.
If you get fed up with collecting cars, put me at the top of your list for one you might be wanting to give away - any old classic will do, I´m not too proud to accept a Testarossa.
Ciao - Rob C
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So you like to drive futt futt too?
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Actually my car is very reliable. It keeps passing it's MOT every year with nothing more than a new windscreen wiper or brake tweak. Geniunely previously owned by a old lady who never used it, my mum! So that helps, along with the fact the bike gets used more often.
This is on one side of my business card and people often wonder if that 's the futt futt futt. It isn't.
(http://www.futtfuttfutt.com/no_category/images/hovervan_wh.jpg)
Oddly enough I've just been test driving new cars this week, the just launched Fiat 500 and a Prius.
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_431/car_photo_215761_7.jpg)
I liked the Fiat, not quite as 'interesting' as the original I used to drive some years back just like this one
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/White_Fiat_500.jpg/250px-White_Fiat_500.jpg)
which was a real head turner. A very quirky car!
I couldn't see the point of the very ugly Prius as it's ecomomy was a bit pants other than being driven very slowly around town. And downhill.
I can get better mileage out of a Golf TDI, even driven very quickly.
I've also been invited this week to try out any of the Land Rover range off road. But the Land Rover I want isn't in the showrooms yet. And it's more efficient than the the Prius! The LRX
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_476/car_photo_238089_25.jpg)
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The bicycle suddenly seems a good alternative!
Jokes aside, I can understand your thinking about the sense of spending money to sit in a jam. We used to drive from Spain to Glasgow and back up until five years ago when I developed a heart problem and my wife decided that long drives were not going to be a lot of fun anymore.
The last return leg was better because they had just started a direct ferry from Scotland to Belgium which we used. The first few times we did those trips (pre direct ferry) we could leave Perthshire at 7.30 in the morning and make it to a hotel in Calais by about 8.30 that night. As time went on, it became more and more fraught and the last time we drove south through England we parked, engine off, in the fast lane of the M6, blocked solid. As memory serves, we got as far as Hemel Hempstead that day.
So yes, driving in the good old UK isn´t a lot of fun, whatever you happen to be in at the time.
Rob C