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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Willow Photography on October 14, 2007, 06:51:57 am
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Did he take a James Russell?
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That is weird I truly liked his posts, as I did James', it would be a pity when he has left the building.
I haven't seen any big conflicts with him involved.
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It appears that he has decided to leave but has not given any indication why. That's his prerogative.
Michael
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Hmmmm...
maybe he has thrown away all his digital stuff and gone back to a box with a hole and film, back to the roots of photography
No more time for posting during processing of files.
I did notice him mention stuff like that lately. Well, he will be missed.
Thx Michael!
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Perhaps he was devoured by a three-headed monster (read his recent posts to understand )
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If this is the case, then I feel really guilty!
Thierry
Perhaps he was devoured by a three-headed monster (read his recent posts to understand )
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Thierry, that comment was meant as a joke. Perhaps he made a decision to concentrate on shooting rather than becoming involved in thread wars.
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Mine too, was meant as a joke!
Thierry, that comment was meant as a joke. Perhaps he made a decision to concentrate on shooting rather than becoming involved in thread wars.
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I didn't know you 'unregister'. I thought you just stop posting. I'm I missing something?
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Too bad - I have really enjoyed the wit and humor of his posts. Maybe he moved over to the H'blad only forum? (just joking).
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So what are you doing in here, Mark?
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This qoute is from » [a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20203&st=60]thread[/url]
I personally believe Graham was joking, perhaps there are other reasons who knows........
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Well, I certainly appreciated the posts from Mark more than those from the various camera reps - less technically useful maybe, but more inspiring.
Edmund
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This qoute is from » thread (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20203&st=60)
I personally believe Graham was joking, perhaps there are other reasons who knows........
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He probably was joking, but maybe it just got Mark thinking.
Maybe he did not want to waste any more time on this and
concentrate more on image making.
It is too little about imaging, but there is not many other places
where we can talk about imaging either.
If anybody knows a forum where image making is more talked about than
all this talk about equipment, DOF, 3D, MFDB versus DSLR etc, let me know
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an image forum?...
Hmmm...
"...the way the single hair of the lash covered JUST enough of the pupil, to bring out the bathos of the whole shot... but I would have use a switchblade to cut the eye, not a razor, but it was what Dali brought to the studio...."
???
Comment?
on art making?
I think not.
Gear is safer!
:-)
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[span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']Why Mark?
We need you Back!!![/span]
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Hey Mark, No offense. I actually thought you would find some humor in my tribute to your old saloon scenario that was removed. I guess my head has turned to mush with all the H bashing and I no longer know what is funny and what is not. Anyway, thought I would test this am to see if it got me banned from LL. Take care guy!
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You're not banned. I just deleted that post because though I recognize that it was likely made in jest it was also in bad taste.
Michael
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I didn't know you 'unregister'. I thought you just stop posting. I'm I missing something?
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even if one wanted to 'unregister', how does one do that?
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Just send an email requesting it.
Michael
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The only upside to unregistering that I can think of is that it would give me more time to actually do photography.
But then I would also stop learning all the new tricks and good stuff I get on the LL forum. So I think I'll stay.
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The only upside to unregistering that I can think of is that it would give me more time to actually do photography.
But then I would also stop learning all the new tricks and good stuff I get on the LL forum. So I think I'll stay.
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Sad, this sudden exodus here on LL. Reminds me of the bad days at RG, without the hassle happening around it ( don't get me wrong, Michael, probably you understand anyway what I mean )
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I have no idea what's going on, or why, but people are free to do as they wish.
Michael
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I have no idea what's going on, or why, but people are free to do as they wish.
Michael
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Speaking of free....thanks a lot for hosting the forums, Michael. I have really enjoyed my time here.
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Sad, this sudden exodus here on LL. Reminds me of the bad days at RG, without the hassle happening around it ( don't get me wrong, Michael, probably you understand anyway what I mean )
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I really don't think that's fair, sorry. The RB fiasco was a huge, poorly run mess. That's not the case here, not by a long shot.
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people are free to do as they wish.
Michael
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Which is my thought, exactly. But to go to the trouble to un-register from a free forum such as this makes someone appear as somewhat of a wack-job, at least to me. I left Depreview because I finally found some sights that actually cater to what I'm interested in which is DMF. I didn't email Phil and say, "I'm leaving". Hell, I still look back there on occasion and I'm still learning! I don't hear much from Frank Door(whatever), maybe he's checked out (un-registered) but he didn't go thru all the drama to tell the world. Unless remaining registered is sucking up band-width, or the site is overloading you with junk email, why would you take the energy to bother un-registering?
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I believe that Mark will be back before our tears will dry. Mark needs time out to get in touch with the artist that lives in him. All this tech talk just bores him. I have seen this many times before and I am certain that I will see it again. The Mark I know has a deep need to share his knowledge and wisdom with others. He will be back.
Andre
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I believe that Mark will be back before our tears will dry. Mark needs time out to get in touch with the artist that lives in him. All this tech talk just bores him. I have seen this many times before and I am certain that I will see it again. The Mark I know has a deep need to share his knowledge and wisdom with others. He will be back.
Andre
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I really hope he does come back!
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@H1/A75 guy,
I'm still here, but I'm very busy preparing for the LA workshops on the 27-28th.
I will not leave LL not one reason to do so.
I'm still lurking everyday, but not as active at the moment, but that will come
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I really hope he does come back!
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well.... i am thinking also but in a little bit longer term.
i saw the end of the RG(RobertGalbraight) forum, and you may think what you want about censorship and all the bad things which are said abour RG,- the mf forum was great and RG felt attacked by this Jesus treat and saw red i.m.o. If someone would make the same chokes about the koran as it have been made in that treat it could bring tha author really in danger,- this does not mean that i did not laugh about the chokes and found RG`s reaction not adequate. But the things were cooking up and he lost control, loosing years of work i believe and we had lost a worthfull forum.i felt that MT( MarkTucker) and JR ( JamesRussel) have been the main motors in the great exodus there which killed the RG forum,- if i remember well.
following some guys started some initiatives to start a little private forum not to risc to be censored anymore by anyone and to stay quiet from "beginners", first tries didnt had much response, till MT and JR ( as known persons, maybe others too ) started a kind of "secret" forum where you just could come in if they invited you personnally- called the "fight-club".
( pls. correct me someone about the details of my story is too wrong,- i was never closed to the circles who created these things so my conclusions can be wrong ... ).
i was wondering some months ago why JR appeared suddenly frequently here again,- but more i wondered myself how sensitive and overheatet ( just my opinion ) was taken the "lolita affair" here,- for me it seems really an offense to this forum and i simply could not understand the whole thing,- less JR took this as a reason to unregister. if Michael would not had reacted so cool ( my opinion ) this forum would have lost half of its members too, and probably it wouldnt longer be from interest in the mf aerea.
Now,- some months later,- MT appears after long time of silence,- i was astonished again, anyway, i thought maybe its getting too boring in their private club.
Again a lots of nice posts ( as had done JR too ) and than suddenly-..... unregistered.
everybody is free to do what he wants,- but if i see all the thing together i cannot avoid to see coincidences,- i just hope that noone will leave for some solidarity feelings, which i.m.o. are in the wrong place.
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Sad, this sudden exodus here on LL. Reminds me of the bad days at RG, without the hassle happening around it ( don't get me wrong, Michael, probably you understand anyway what I mean )
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I had a great time at RG while it lasted...perhaps for some it was just a case of moving on...
www.sanjaynarayan.com
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Which is my thought, exactly. But to go to the trouble to un-register from a free forum such as this makes someone appear as somewhat of a wack-job, at least to me. I left Depreview because I finally found some sights that actually cater to what I'm interested in which is DMF. I didn't email Phil and say, "I'm leaving". Hell, I still look back there on occasion and I'm still learning! I don't hear much from Frank Door(whatever), maybe he's checked out (un-registered) but he didn't go thru all the drama to tell the world. Unless remaining registered is sucking up band-width, or the site is overloading you with junk email, why would you take the energy to bother un-registering?
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"people are free to do as they wish... Michael"
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I really don't think that's fair, sorry. The RB fiasco was a huge, poorly run mess. That's not the case here, not by a long shot.
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Rodney, read my post. Sorry if you misunderstood it, but I'm talking about the dropout of some valuable members with interesting comments and views. Especially as these views and beliefs were further reaching, not only tech talk. As simple as that. I was comparing this only to a certain moment in time at RG, I did not talk at all about Michael's abilities to run and moderate his forum.
And I'm sure he got the point.
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I have asked to be unregistered twice, and my requests have been ignored...
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You are not being ignored. Your request simply hasn't been received.
You are now deleted.
Michael
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is that so important to get unregistered? I do not understand. All one has to do is stopping to login and not longer posting.
Thierry
I have asked to be unregistered twice, and my requests have been ignored...
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It all seems a little self important to say the least, I mean making a big deal about "officially unregistering" very silly really. I think some people on these forums have a rather inflated view of themselves.
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May be Michael is giving certificates!
Thierry
It all seems a little self important to say the least, I mean making a big deal about "officially unregistering" very silly really. I think some people on these forums have a rather inflated view of themselves.
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Thierry,
Good point. I have failed to understand why people ask to be deleted. All it does is remove their ability to post. There is no mail list or anything else of the sort that implies continued participation. All they need to do is just go away.
My only assumption is that it is some form of protest, though no one has had either the sense or the balls to let me know what the protest is about.
Michael
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Very unfortunate. For all of Mark Tucker's exceptional talent as a photographer, he also possesses a rare gift of being able to see the photographic world with a social critic's eye and express that verbally in incisive and often hysterically funny terms. Hopefully he will be back, perhaps under some psedonym like Hype 6 Man. He deserves a wide audience.
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well.... i am thinking also but in a little bit longer term.
i saw the end of the RG(RobertGalbraight) forum, and you may think what you want about censorship and all the bad things which are said abour RG,- the mf forum was great and RG felt attacked by this Jesus treat and saw red i.m.o. If someone would make the same chokes about the koran as it have been made in that treat it could bring tha author really in danger,- this does not mean that i did not laugh about the chokes and found RG`s reaction not adequate. But the things were cooking up and he lost control, loosing years of work i believe and we had lost a worthfull forum.i felt that MT( MarkTucker) and JR ( JamesRussel) have been the main motors in the great exodus there which killed the RG forum,- if i remember well.
following some guys started some initiatives to start a little private forum not to risc to be censored anymore by anyone and to stay quiet from "beginners", first tries didnt had much response, till MT and JR ( as known persons, maybe others too ) started a kind of "secret" forum where you just could come in if they invited you personnally- called the "fight-club".
( pls. correct me someone about the details of my story is too wrong,- i was never closed to the circles who created these things so my conclusions can be wrong ... ).
i was wondering some months ago why JR appeared suddenly frequently here again,- but more i wondered myself how sensitive and overheatet ( just my opinion ) was taken the "lolita affair" here,- for me it seems really an offense to this forum and i simply could not understand the whole thing,- less JR took this as a reason to unregister. if Michael would not had reacted so cool ( my opinion ) this forum would have lost half of its members and wouldnot löonger be from interest probably in the mf aerea. same person here who heated the story i.m.o., and for me this looked strange.
Now,- some months later,- MT appears after long time of silence,- i was astonished again, anyway, i thought maybe its getting too boring in their private club.
Again a lots of nice posts ( as had done JR too ) and than suddenly-..... unregistered.
everybody is free to do what he wants,- but if i see all the thing together i cannot avoid to see too much coincidences,- i just hope that noone will leave for some solidarity feelings, which i.m.o. are in the wrong place.
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I am not familiar with these events at all!
I have searched James Russel posts and you are right, I too found them to be very useful and primarily focused on photography, nice!
As far as politics goes, silence is more durable and the effort pays off!!!
Cheers
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@H1/A75 guy,
I'm still lurking everyday,
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I could feel you lurking. Hope your A22 is still working out for you. It was an A22 Demo class by a Leaf rep at my local retailer that convinced me 2 years ago I had to go to DMF. I still remember the detail of the model's suede vest and the skin tone. It never occurred to me to look at another system. A year later the same rep suggested I don't bother upgrading to an A75S if it wasn't absolutely necessary since the lossless files could not immediately be opened in LC10/11. Maybe someday Leaf will address the issue. I don't know what all the fuss is about with the H being a closed system. People see the glass as being half empty or half full. I think this is a great time to have an H with a third party back. I'm happy to have one. There are allot of options out there, but an H2F is not. Maybe we will all know more by this Thursday.
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is that so important to get unregistered? I do not understand. All one has to do is stopping to login and not longer posting.
Thierry
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The only reason I can see is that your old posts may not be available to read--or not. I'm just making an assumption.
I'm not an MF person but I regularly read the MF forum at RG so do remember the brouhaha well. I learned a lot--on several fronts--from reading it and was sorry to see it end as it did. However, I continue to learn a lot here and these are by far my favorite forums.
Diane
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is that so important to get unregistered? I do not understand. All one has to do is stopping to login and not longer posting.
Thierry
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The only reason I can see is that your old posts may not be available to read--I assume.
Diane
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As far as I know, your posts only get deleted if your account is deleted and not if you stop login ever.
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As far as I know, your posts only get deleted if your account is deleted and not if you don't login ever.
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Would unregistering be the same as having your account deleted?
Diane
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Would unregistering be the same as having your account deleted?
Diane
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Considering recent events, obviously not.
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I think what appears to happen when you become unregistered is that all your previous posts remain but there's an indication they are from an unregistered person. This does not prevent anyone reading the posts but makes it impossible to do a search by member name. To find the posts of an unregistered person, you would have to know the topic or key word(s).
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I think what appears to happen when you become unregistered is that all your previous posts remain but there's an indication they are from an unregistered person. This does not prevent anyone reading the posts but makes it impossible to do a search by member name. To find the posts of an unregistered person, you would have to know the topic or key word(s).
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That's what I thought Ray. Though if you are searching for several particular members, you would probably have a good idea of topics.
Diane
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I do have an opinion on Hasselblad vs Mamiya but that is more an economical and personal feel.
I LOVE both systems.
But the Mamiya 645AFD/II feels better in my hands and looks better build.
Also the pricing of glass is MUCH more interesting with the Mamiya, and the quality according to many sites is equal or gives the edge to Mamiya.
So I could upgrade for about 50% less than going with Hasselblad.
I have bought most of my lenses used between 150.00 (1.9 80mm) to 1000.00 (55-110)
When I wanted the same for Hasselblad it was app twice the ammount.
And I needed at least 5 lenses
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When I spent a lot of time at APUG we had a few dust-ups and every month or so someone would be terribly offended and write a long dissertation telling the world what they thought of it, and then proceeded to "resign" their membership.
After a few of those, the moderator banned "long goodbys" and the poor injured party just disappeared in silence.
I guess that sending in your resignation papers is a form of protest over something but I've never understood what the point of it is. If you don't like drinking at that particular bar anymore, just don't go there.
As for Mark Tucker, I loved his comments and his work.
Michael
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Thierry,
Good point. I have failed to understand why people ask to be deleted. All it does is remove their ability to post. There is no mail list or anything else of the sort that implies continued participation. All they need to do is just go away.
My only assumption is that it is some form of protest, though no one has had either the sense or the balls to let me know what the protest is about.
Michael
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I have not posted in a while... as a rule I only post to a thread if I can add something... but am often tempted if there is an on-going "joke" to join in on!
People asking to be removed smack's of attention seeking in my opinion. I think the Luminous landscape forum is great and as far as I am concerned it is a case of their loss not ours!
Let's not forget that this website is about subscribing to the excellant video journals and also using them as a topic for discusion about both photographhy AND gear. This makes the L-Landscape webpage unique in the experience if offers and also makes it much harder work for Michael to produce and administer than a striaght DPreview type of site (which mostly posts news and the odd review).
Do not be dishearted by some of the ego's here Michael, just look at the numbers logging on and NOT making "a big song and dance"... these figures speak lounder than any other and suspect that they continue to grow day by day!
Keep it up: and the same to all the rest of you experienced photographers and technicians who keep us lesser acolytes informed!
Ed
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This is all very odd. I've been making pictures and arranging studio space these past few weeks and too busy to hop and bop around on the forums. Sad to see folks go, but it's certainly a right. I got fed up with all the camera news myself and just went out to take a bunch of shots with the gear I have. No surprise: lots of great shots without spending a dime except on gas and coffee.
Sometimes we do forget what it's about. But taking a dirt nap from a forum? Wierd.