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Title: Lily Pads
Post by: DarkPenguin on October 12, 2007, 12:01:54 AM
I love this one.  (Well, a little crowded on the left.)  What camera?
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Rob C on October 12, 2007, 05:01:56 AM
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I love this one.  (Well, a little crowded on the left.)  What camera?
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Ooooh you devil, you!

Rob C
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: michael on October 12, 2007, 08:05:32 AM
Thanks.

Which camera?

A new one.  

Michael
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: DarkPenguin on October 12, 2007, 09:21:12 AM
Ah!  The colors look different to me.  (Could, of course, always be the artist.)

Again, very nice.
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on October 12, 2007, 10:14:09 AM
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Ah!  The colors look different to me.  (Could, of course, always be the artist.)

Again, very nice.
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No, it looks more like lily pads than artist to me.    

I like it, too. (Not that the artist isn't a handsome enough bloke.)
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: David White on October 12, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
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Thanks.

Which camera?

A new one.   

Michael
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I imagine that might be the EOS 5D Mark II with 16MP and sensor cleaning technology.  Perhaps even a programmable mirror lockup button.  
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Rob C on October 12, 2007, 11:36:23 AM
Do you love the smell of new Nikon in the morning?

Rob C
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Jay Kaplan on October 12, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
Very striking, love the colors -

Something new? Probably that fancy brand C Mike alluded to earlier this month.  
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: michael on October 12, 2007, 05:54:31 PM
Sorry to have been obscure earlier this morning. I only just received permission to say that it's the Canon 1Ds MKIII that I've been shooting with for the past 4 days.

Michael
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: MikeMike on October 12, 2007, 07:11:18 PM
AAANND...? how is it?
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Andy M on October 12, 2007, 07:14:30 PM
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Sorry to have been obscure earlier this morning. I only just received permission to say that it's the Canon 1Ds MKIII that I've been shooting with for the past 4 days.

Michael
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Come on Michael, please let us know your brief thoughts...

If that's not possible due to contract etc etc, possibly just one word to sum up the camera?

And, when should we expect to see the review?
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: michael on October 12, 2007, 08:45:09 PM
There are no limitations on what I can write. The only limitation now is my available time, which is quite restricted this week, and before the week is over I'll be leaving for a two week long shoot in Madagascar.

I've had the 1Ds MKIII now for a week and have done some limited shooting with it. I will be taking it to Africa as my main camera and expect that I'll be able to really put it through it's paces there.

For the moment what I can say is that the camera is simply terrific. Image quality and sensor aside, it's just like a 1D MKIII. The bodies are essentially identical, with the IIIS having a slightly larger prism bulge.

So, if you want to know what the IIIS is like as a camera, simply read my and other reviewer's comments on that camera.

As for image quality, it's simpy too early to tell much. I've done about 400 frames so far, shooting fall colour in Algonquin Park. I've made about a half dozen 20X30" prints today on the new Epson 11880 printer, and the results are excellent.

Auto white balance is as good as I've ever seen. Tonal renditions are excellent, and while I've done no noise comparisons yet, ISO 400 frames are essentially noiseless and ISO 800 hardly need any additional work. I have not yet shot 1600 or higher.

The extra pixels are very welcome for either making big prints, or cropping. I have not done any comparisons yet to a 1D MKII or the 5D (I plan on doing this before my review appears). I briefly did a comparison with a P45+, but that's comparing apples and oranges. The 39MP camera without an antiailiasing filter is head and shoulders better in terms of resolution than a 21MP with an AA filter.

But having said that, my quick summery is that the 1Ds MKIII is Canon's best camera yet. Superb image quality, much improved features and user interface, better battery system, faster frame rate, etc etc.

There's still a great deal for me to analyse, but it will be several weeks until I am back from my shoot in Madagascar and have a chance to write a full hands-on review.

And, to answer the question that will inevitably be asked, no, I have not tested focus tracking, and don't know anything about how, if, and when Canon will handle the reported focus issues with the 1D MKIII and by implication the 1Ds MKII.

Michael
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: DarkPenguin on October 12, 2007, 09:06:37 PM
Interesting.  Thank you.
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: OwlsEye on October 12, 2007, 10:34:57 PM
This might be one of my favorite images that you have posted in a long time. I keep coming back to it... 4th visit. There is something about the black/negative space juxtaposed with the abstract colors of the aging lillypads.
Thanks for continuing to inspire us all.
regards,
bruce
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Andy M on October 13, 2007, 03:46:37 AM
Excellent Michael, thank you.

One final question: will you be buying one?
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: michael on October 13, 2007, 04:26:19 AM
I've placed my order with a local dealer and already old my 1Ds MKII.

Michael
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: mtomalty on October 13, 2007, 07:34:16 PM
Michael

Thanks for taking the time to share some of your preliminary thoughts.

A lot of the early buzz that has been discussed on many assorted forums dealt with
the hypothesis that the 1DsMklll would not be able to realize its full potential without
a new series of lenses to take advantage of the increased resolution.

Obviously,it's too soon to have a definitive opinion on this but have you run into any
situations,shooting with the 1DsMklll, where you felt a little 'lean' on resolution?

Mark
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: djgarcia on October 13, 2007, 07:46:28 PM
Michael, thank you for the insights, and the images of course! I wish they were taking pre-orders down here in NYC for regular folks like me . I'll just have to settle in for the long-feeling wait.

I doubt I'll be as lucky as I was with the 1Ds II - I logged into B&H on December 2, 2004 to have them notify me at work if it got in stock when I noticed it said In Stock! They had one body available and I somehow hit the timing right on.

Happy shooting, and we'll be waiting for the full report once you're finished with the fun stuff.
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: spotmeter on October 14, 2007, 12:05:52 AM
Michael,

When you do your review, I'd like to know if the AA filter is as aggressive as the 1DsII, or is it more like the 5D?

Perhaps someday Canon will release the 1DL MkIII--a camera without an AA filter for landscape shooters.
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: djgarcia on October 14, 2007, 12:22:22 AM
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Michael,

When you do your review, I'd like to know if the AA filter is as aggressive as the 1DsII, or is it more like the 5D?

Perhaps someday Canon will release the 1DL MkIII--a camera without an AA filter for landscape shooters.
What I find amusing is that the 1Ds X are touted as studio AND landscape cameras, yet where's the mirror lock-up button, staple of landscape photographers? I think they mistake us for archeologists, who like things buried deep underground ...
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: juicy on October 14, 2007, 04:36:15 PM
Hi!

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I think they mistake us for archeologists, who like things buried deep underground ...

           

Lily pad is a fantastic photo, btw. Might be awesome as a large print!
Cheers,
J
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: luong on October 15, 2007, 03:23:44 PM
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What I find amusing is that the 1Ds X are touted as studio AND landscape cameras
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By whom ? Landscape photography hardly registers in the professional photography field, and its dedicated practitioners tend to use larger cameras than 35mm.
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: djgarcia on October 15, 2007, 07:49:42 PM
From the Canon white paper on the 1Ds III, Overview, page 4:

"The EOS-1Ds Mark III is intended, most obviously, for professional studio photographers and landscape photographers ..."
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Philmar on October 16, 2007, 05:19:23 PM
Where hath yon lily pad photo gone? Mesees not where it lay? Where praytell be it?
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: Richowens on October 16, 2007, 06:56:55 PM
Here (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/1photo-pages/lilly-pads.shtml)
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: djgarcia on October 16, 2007, 06:56:55 PM
Fall hath arriven, me thinketh ...
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: mmurph on October 17, 2007, 10:43:50 AM
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yet where's the mirror lock-up button

I understand that the one-touch "Live Preview" button locks up the mirror, as on the 1DIII

Personally never bothered me. We have some of the best tools ever.  Always a few quirks.

Best,
Michael
Title: Lily Pads
Post by: djgarcia on October 17, 2007, 01:00:08 PM
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I understand that the one-touch "Live Preview" button locks up the mirror, as on the 1DIII

Personally never bothered me. We have some of the best tools ever.  Always a few quirks.

Best,
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Yeah, I've been using stop-down / mirror lock-up until recently, but you need to nit-pick them to death otherwise they get way too complacent. Fortunately Nikon's doing that for us now ...

Cheers!