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Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on August 17, 2007, 10:22:55 am
One of the most frequently asked questions L-L Customer Service receives  is:
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How do I watch your download video on my TV?
I am interested in collecting the various methods and observations that customers have when they watch our download video on a television so that I can create a more extensive webpage of answers and methods.

My stock answer to the question is that the files will look best if played through a hardware conversion device such as an Apple TV, a Sony Playstation or an XBox.
[I export the download files through QuickTime Pro to Apple TV format (when necessary for AAC sound conversion) and then play the component signal on a HD set - the most recent stuff looks great.]

But not everyone has or wants such a device... although my betting is that such devices represent the main thrust of future web/video development.

So, what success have others had with conversion to DVD? My results are disappointing and I reluctantly tell customers that it is possible to put them on a DVD but the resulting video will look sub-standard. Essentially that process is like opening and saving a JPEG photograph: compression on top of compression looks like crap.

Has anyone had reasonable success with a scan converter? If so, which model?

Are there any other viable methods?

All suggestions welcomed.

Chris Sanderson
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: jwhee0615 on August 17, 2007, 10:46:51 am
Have you experimented with this?

http://www.sharewareguide.net/Audio-Multim...dvd-burner.html (http://www.sharewareguide.net/Audio-Multimedia/Rippers-Converters/wondershare-video-to-dvd-burner.html)


Well never mind...i tried it and even though it says it does .mov files it says file format not supported.

Everyone should get some type of media streamer. It really is the way to go for watching various types of files on the TV.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: francois on August 17, 2007, 10:58:51 am
Chris,
First I must say that I'm far from an expert in TV/Video/DVD stuff but I  tried to encode the standard LL-VJ 16 and LR tutorial and put them on DVD. I was never satisfied with the final quality. I now use my MacBook Pro and connect it directly to my TV set using an Apple DVI to Video adapter. Quality is OK and much better than my miserable attempts.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Adam L on August 17, 2007, 03:28:53 pm
I watch the video on my computer.    It's interesting that you ask this question because just last week I bought my first HDTV.  On the back of the set is a input for a computer display.  Just for yucks I attached my old PC and was blown away at how nice the image looks.

I'm tempted to run my new monitor calibration SW on this puppy.   I have to assume that it's only a matter of time before monitors and TVs are the same device.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: david75 on August 17, 2007, 05:34:40 pm
I export the files to dvd video with VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/).

I think a divx version of LLVJ and tutorials would be perfect. High quality and high compatibility with many devices, I'm a mac user but quicktime files are very problematic.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Gordon Buck on August 17, 2007, 06:13:40 pm
I use AoA DVD Creator to make a DVD for viewing on standard resolution TV.  It seems to work OK and the quality is OK, I suppose.  I use the AoA software very simply (have only done this twice) so perhaps I've missed some setting or other.  

I did have a problem in that the audio and video got out of sync towards the end of the show.  Very irritating.  Oddly enough, I rewound a little bit to review something and on replaying synchronization was restored.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Frank Doorhof on August 18, 2007, 03:04:02 am
I use a mediaplayer (like MB200/Tivx4200 etc.) and as viewing device a high-end CRT projector with a Crystalio II 3800 videoscaler.

A pretty nice setup, the videos didn't cut it quality wise due to judder, but that has been solved
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on August 18, 2007, 09:01:34 am
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I use a mediaplayer (like MB200/Tivx4200 etc.)[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=133974\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Frank, I read somewhere that PixelMagic's MB200 does not support H.264 encoded video - which ours now all is. Have you had any problems that might indicate this?

CS
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: kaelaria on August 18, 2007, 04:33:19 pm
AoA is the only app I have found to do the current files.  Everything else lags on the audio.

DVD Flick was my fav before the format changed.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Dave Pickens on August 19, 2007, 05:00:51 pm
Hi Chris:
I am using NERO and it did a fine job. I can't attest to highest quality as my TV is not HD but it is large screen (48") and the quality is as good as what I see coming from most of the cable channels.
I did notice that by compressing more of segments onto one disk I lost some quality but at highest quality (2 segments to one DVD) setting it seemed fine for me.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: tived on September 20, 2007, 12:55:01 pm
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Hi Chris:
I am using NERO and it did a fine job. I can't attest to highest quality as my TV is not HD but it is large screen (48") and the quality is as good as what I see coming from most of the cable channels.
I did notice that by compressing more of segments onto one disk I lost some quality but at highest quality (2 segments to one DVD) setting it seemed fine for me.
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Thanks for that Dave,

I was looking for this info.

Now, I can sit back and enjoy this

Henrik
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: mjflath on September 25, 2007, 09:43:39 pm
I don't mind watching some shorter segments on the computer, but my preferred platform is still the TV.  I'm running Windows and tried a number of different programs (more than I would have liked) - including AoA and Nero - which had audio and skipping problems.  Finally found TMPGEnc Dvd Author which provided a clean, good quality conversion and decent menu templates.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: tived on September 26, 2007, 04:14:53 am
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Thanks for that Dave,

I was looking for this info.

Now, I can sit back and enjoy this

Henrik
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that didn't work that well for me, I have to try something else

thanks

Henrik
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Frank Doorhof on September 26, 2007, 07:13:14 am
Sorry for the late reply.
H264 HD is not supported by the Mediabox indeed.
However it does play it sometimes.
For the LL I use the TIVX4100 at the moment, that plays all.

Before that I converted the LL videos back to MPEG2 a 5 minute job most of the time.

I don't care much for the container as long as the quality is good, would love to see HD
you can always convert to something that can be played.

HOWEVER that said.
With all the mediaplayers out there at the moment like the PS3, Xbox360, MB, Tivx I think it would be wise to choose something that is universal playable.
Like H264.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Bob Nicholson on November 23, 2007, 03:23:02 am
Hi Chris

Sorry to come in on this so late.

I have tried Nero, AoA and various others but found sound synch problems, video stalling etc. etc.

I then saw a comment on one of these fora recommending
"TMPGEnc DVD Author 3 with DivX® Authoring"

I am trying this at the moment and it seems to work fine, decent quality picture and sound in synch, I'm quite impressed    

Not as good as the full DVD version of the VJ but quite acceptable.

I also tried it on C2P and find that the 24 fps makes a big difference.

Cheers

Bob


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One of the most frequently asked questions L-L Customer Service receives  is:
I am interested in collecting the various methods and observations that customers have when they watch our download video on a television so that I can create a more extensive webpage of answers and methods.

My stock answer to the question is that the files will look best if played through a hardware conversion device such as an Apple TV, a Sony Playstation or an XBox.
[I export the download files through QuickTime Pro to Apple TV format (when necessary for AAC sound conversion) and then play the component signal on a HD set - the most recent stuff looks great.]

But not everyone has or wants such a device... although my betting is that such devices represent the main thrust of future web/video development.

So, what success have others had with conversion to DVD? My results are disappointing and I reluctantly tell customers that it is possible to put them on a DVD but the resulting video will look sub-standard. Essentially that process is like opening and saving a JPEG photograph: compression on top of compression looks like crap.

Has anyone had reasonable success with a scan converter? If so, which model?

Are there any other viable methods?

All suggestions welcomed.

Chris Sanderson
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Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: dfilion on November 26, 2007, 01:54:59 pm
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Hi Chris:
I am using NERO and it did a fine job. I can't attest to highest quality as my TV is not HD but it is large screen (48") and the quality is as good as what I see coming from most of the cable channels.
I did notice that by compressing more of segments onto one disk I lost some quality but at highest quality (2 segments to one DVD) setting it seemed fine for me.
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I tried Nero 8 Ultra over the weekend to convert the Lightroom tutorial.  The video converted pretty well but there is no sound. I'm going to try again and see if there was an option mis configured or if it was just a bad burn.

Chris, I currently have the video feeding to my TV (Sony 20") from my computer via s-cable and running at 800x600.  The sound is through the computer systems speakers.  I hate this type of setup, but it's the only way I can watch the video segments on TV until I can get them to properly burn.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: billg71 on December 13, 2007, 10:33:18 pm
I use Nero 6 and usually burn one zip file's worth of videos onto a 4Gb disc. I don't compress, if it won't fit on one disk I'll put it on the next. The video quality is as good as viewing in QT Pro and I get to sit back in front of the Sony 32" HD CRT monitor instead of hunching over a 19" LCD.  

As I recall, a couple of the Develop videos in the LR tutorial burned with no sound no matter what I tried. A later download fixed the problem.

C2P #17 also won't play well with Nero, it refuses to load at all. All the others burned just fine. VJ 15 & 16 burned fine, all chapters. Cris, maybe you can fix the C2P 17 file?

I run a mid-level Intel C2D/Windoze system, XP Pro 32-bit. Nothing special, about a year behind bleeding-edge, plenty of RAM, a couple of Raptors for OS/programs and a couple of Seagates for data. Two calibrated 19" Viewsonics driven off an ATI X1950 Pro card. Pretty vanilla by today's standards. But it works for me and didn't break the bank to build.

Nero 6 seems to handle the files just fine with the exceptions I noted. I don't have any experience with AppleTV, the PS2 is stacked in a corner somewhere and I never bought an X-Box.  I play the DVD's on a regular Sony player using component output.

Bill
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: rugydp on December 14, 2007, 03:19:16 am
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How do I watch your download video on my TV?

I watch it on my livingroom mac-mini connected to a 32'' flat tv by vga using front row. The quality on full screen is good. Chrissand: I think you have chosen the right compression method.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Robert.D on December 14, 2007, 03:30:16 pm
The best way to covert is to rip to AVI then encode to MPEG


Please remember that that the video's are copyright of Luminous Landscape and this would require permission

Robert
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on December 15, 2007, 11:35:18 am
Hmmm - the topic was Download video being outputted to a TV; perhaps you are referring to ripping the physical DVDs to a computer viewable file format? - for backup purposes only of course  

actually for Mac users, HandBrake encodes to H264 mp4 files are the way to go...IMO
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Robert.D on December 15, 2007, 03:50:36 pm
Chrissand

any transfer of video encoding will result in loss of quality I was only advising the way with the least loss.
I would would not use a TV instead of a Calibrated Monitor the distortion and tone shift would devalue the content of any tutorial/Video journal in my opinion.

Robert
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Frank Doorhof on December 16, 2007, 07:23:49 am
Or use a calibrated TV/projector
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: ned on December 31, 2007, 01:04:07 pm
I tried a couple of things, one works one does not.

First I tried streaming from my computer to my xbox 360 using TVersity. TVersity is a free download... Works great, as long as the source is NOT a .mov file. TVersity attempts to transcode .mov on the fly and convert it to a source which is playable on the Xbox. Although I have read that this is compatible if you use 3rd party plug ins, I could never get it to work after many hours of trying. It did display my file one time, but the second attempt to get that same file to work failed. I could never get it to work again.

I just purchased TMPGEnc DVD Author 3 with DIVX Authoring. This allows you to burn to DVD's. This solution works great. Nice letter box output (or other formats) and sync'ed audio with no issues at all. It will let you create very nice menu systems, and a whole bunch of other stuff I will never use.

I really wanted to be able to stream .mov files like I do with mpeg video, my music files and photos. But it turned out to be a big waste of time.

So if you don't mind spending 90 bucks on software, TMPGEnc works fine.

Regards,

Ned
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on December 31, 2007, 01:17:34 pm
Yeah, for our recent stuff, I have tried to stay away from .mov files and have posted most everything as H264 encoded .mp4 files. I take it from your post that these files have worked on the TVersity?
CS
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: DarkPenguin on January 13, 2008, 04:24:04 pm
I'm running my old pc and J. River Media Center connected to my TV via a nice HDMI cable.  As the TV is basically a big computer monitor this works fine.

This is proving to be a nice setup.  I can put a new set of files on this thing and do an initial preview of all my images on a really big screen.  Way cool.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: ned on August 18, 2008, 09:56:53 am
I posted earlier my experience with Tversity. I couldn't get it to work with a .mov file. Just the other day I down loaded the latest version. We'll the stars must have been aligned because now it works. :-)

I am able to stream the videos, even the LR2 Hi-dev videos over my wireless network and output them to my xbox 360 for display.  Cool. Only "problem" I have is if I set the resolution to anything above 800x600 in the Tversity software the video will pause while the buffer catches up. Not sure of the cause, it could be that my wireless network is not fast enough to keep up. But even at 600x400 output to my Sharp LCD TV it is very usable.

This is exactly what I have been looking for. I store all of my LL videos on my PC, and I simply use the xbox remote to navigate to the video, sit back sip some scotch and enjoy!

Highly Recommended
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: svein-frode on August 18, 2008, 03:53:53 pm
I view LL videos on a 46" Sony LCD Full-HD TV. I connect my computer to the TV with a standard monitor cable and use it as a second monitor. I use Nero ShowTime as my viewing software. I am very happy with the results! Production is top notch. Keep up the good work Chris!
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Gordon Buck on August 18, 2008, 06:18:34 pm
Actually, I gave up trying to watch the L-L downloads - haven't even watched the last one completely.  As much as I enjoyed the L-L videos (I have all of them), it became too much of a hassle.  The download plays OK with Quicktime but Quicktime takes over my business computer and really messes up the default file associations.  Supposedly the Quicktime file associations can be configured but that feature doesn't seem to work for me.  So to watch L-L I have to install Quicktime, then uninstall and re-configure my computer.

Previously I was able to use AoA DVD converter to make my own DVD for TV playback but that software no longer seems to work on the L-L downloads.

Instead of a pleasant evening watching L-L DVD on the TV, the download and processing became an exercise in frustration.  There's a good chance that I'm not the only one feeling this way as I'm otherwise considered fairly adept at these computer thingies.

The strangest aspect of this frustration from my point of view is that I fully supported the change from mailing to download.  In fact, changing to download is exactly what I would have done under the circumstances.  I just can't get a usable product out of it.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: michael on August 19, 2008, 08:25:22 am
Gordon,

Sorry to hear that it isn't working for you.

Since many thousands of people have been downloading and watching the videos successfully over the years I can only assume that the problems that you're having have something to do with your particular computer and set up.

Have you tried using VLC or some other player besides Quicktime?

Michael
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Gordon Buck on August 19, 2008, 01:24:13 pm
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Gordon,

Sorry to hear that it isn't working for you.

Since many thousands of people have been downloading and watching the videos successfully over the years I can only assume that the problems that you're having have something to do with your particular computer and set up.

Have you tried using VLC or some other player besides Quicktime?

Michael
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I'm sure that the problem lies in my setup and my own skills but can't find a workaround.  I gave up in frustration but will be trying again.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: vandevanterSH on August 19, 2008, 09:33:06 pm
Would it be possible to offer an Apple TV friendly download?  It would seem to me to be more efficient to do one conversion rather than having 100s/1000s(?) of people doing it at home.  

Steve
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Bob Nicholson on August 20, 2008, 03:25:13 am
another vote for TMPGEnc Dvd Author, it does a good job. BUT it could not cope with the recent LR2 HD video, I had to get the SD version to get it to a DVD for TV use.

Bob


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I don't mind watching some shorter segments on the computer, but my preferred platform is still the TV.  I'm running Windows and tried a number of different programs (more than I would have liked) - including AoA and Nero - which had audio and skipping problems.  Finally found TMPGEnc Dvd Author which provided a clean, good quality conversion and decent menu templates.
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Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: billg71 on August 24, 2008, 08:50:26 pm
Cris,

I just got finished burning the LR2 Guide to DVD using Nerovision 5.3.9 and the results are excellent. I just brought the files into Nero until I filled up a disc, did some combining and chapter splits to clean up the menu and burned. It took 3 dual-layers and one single-layer.

Viewed through a Sony player, component output into a Sony HD monitor, the video is comparable to what I see on the computer screen. No lags in audio, video breakups or any other problems.

Same results with the C2P video and the first LR guide, although with a previous Nero version.

I wish you guys would make these available on DVD but I understand the drawbacks from your POV. It would just save me some time.

Thanx for a great job,

Bill

P.S.  Gordon, try QTlite http://www.codecguide.com/qt_lite.htm (http://www.codecguide.com/qt_lite.htm) It allows you to play QT videos in your browser but doesn't muck with your file associations or eat up system resources. My default player for .mov files is Nero but I can also play them through WMP so maybe it installs a codec for the Apple files. FWIW, I also have iTunes installed but it isn't the default player for anything. HTH....
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Gordon Buck on August 24, 2008, 09:35:53 pm
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Have you tried using VLC or some other player besides Quicktime?

Michael
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Thanks for the tip about VLC -- it works just fine.  I disassociated all file types before installing just to be sure.  

I'm glad this thread resumed.  I'll probably be trying some of the other programs that have been mentioned to get a TV version.

My wife really enjoys the less technical parts of the LLVJ but she's not going to sit in front of a computer to watch it.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: budjames on August 24, 2008, 10:32:45 pm
I used QT Pro on my MacPro 8-core to convert the LR 2.0 Tutorial to Apple TV compatible files. Michael and Jeff are almost life size (well maybe not Jeff) on my 55" plasma TV.

I did the same for the HD versions of LLVJ - awesome!

Bud James
North Wales, PA.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Peter Mellis on September 08, 2008, 04:04:04 pm
I would like to convert the Journal and tutorial downloads to DVD format for more comfortable viewing. I've read through this thread and besides being confused by the jargon, I have the impression that there isn't a good way, results wise, to do this. If it's not doable at this time, I'll continue along on the computer/tv setup that I have. If there is a way that it can be done simply, with good results, I'd appreciate a recommendation as to what software to use. I'm using Windows XP, on a PC and although computer literate, am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks for your assistance.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: feppe on September 08, 2008, 05:18:28 pm
I watch them on a 120" projector screen, outputting from PC via dual DVI outputs, directly from iTunes. I'd prefer to have the files in .wmv or .avi format, as then I'd be able to stream from my PC to PS3 using TVersity Media Server without having to set up the computer screen.

I agree with some of the comments: having a single file to download would make my life much easier. Having to download a bunch of zip files, open them up, import them to iTunes, and watch them one-by-one (haven't found a way to continuously play video files in iTunes) is quite annoying. Having a good selection of video formats preferably in one (zip or not) file would go a long way towards easing that.

A huge advantage is the lack of DRM, which I extend my sincerest thanks to you, Michael, and whoever else is involved. I wouldn't touch a DRMd file at all due to the additional hassle involved, treating customers as potential criminals, and the possibility of losing access to the files when/if something goes wrong.

And to ease bandwidth pressures, going to an optional torrent download might help. You could set up a passworded torrent tracker and offload much of the bandwidth to elsewhere. This would be especially useful during the first few days of releasing a new video. Pure Pwnage (http://www.purepwnage.com/) (a Canadian computer gaming series) has been using bittorrent for years very successfully.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Scott McGee on September 11, 2008, 11:46:45 pm
I use my TiVo to watch the LLVJ downloads on a 42" HDTV. Quality is great and it's very simple. Basically, you tell the TiVo Desktop software where to look for video files on your computer, then it automatically transfers the videos to the TiVo. Then, just go to the TV and watch. Works great.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 25, 2008, 02:12:19 am
As a spoiled Mac user, I expect things to simply work. Here is how I watch LLVJ on HDTV in three easy steps:

1. Download to Mac

2. Using Sony Playstation 3 and MediaLink ($20), find the downloaded file and copy it to PS3

3. Watch it on HDTV (even standard-definition LLVJs look damn good)

Simple enough?

Before I discovered MediaLink, I tried to create a DVD using Apple's iDVD, but the process and end result is PITA. I takes too long (as in hours), a single LLVJ could not fit on a single 4.7 GB disk, and the end quality is as lousy as any standard-definition program on a HDTV.


Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: reyn_two on February 21, 2009, 11:51:29 am
Does anyone really understand this video stuff? I want to watch the LL_L2 tutorial on my TV sitting comfortably eating chocolate and drinking a glass of wine, and I will. The video player I have is a Panasonic and I want to use DVD-RAM disks which seem to have a particular video format of DVD-VR which use a DVD_RTAV wrapper to hold the files and not the DVD-VOB wrapper associated with the DVD-VIDEO format.
I have tried numerous programs to try and encode/recode or whatever it's called. Finally I found a free program called Any Video Converter to change the files to mpeg2 this took several hours for all the files, next step was to use Cyberlink PowerProducer 5 to convert the files to the DVD-VR format and write them to disk this also took half a day. I now have 3 disks with good quality video and I've even got sound (In sync). Thank goodness for modern technology, what else would I do with my time.
The only problem is that two of the files are giving me a hard time, number 12 and 40 won't convert, I think it's time for the Inquisition to step in and frighten them to death.
Another slight downer, the time to do all this including getting up the enthusiasm in the first place has been so stretched out that I might just get to watch the video before Lightroom 3 arrives and I have to start all over again, never mind I retire in five years and will have plenty of time to put to odd pursuits, I might even take some pictures.
My holiday snaps are at KuckooPhoto (http://www.kuckoophoto.com) would someone mind leaving a comment, I'm getting pretty desperate.  
Thanks for reading this saga.
Frank
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on February 21, 2009, 02:19:40 pm
Quote from: reyn_two
The only problem is that two of the files are giving me a hard time, number 12 and 40 won't convert, I think it's time for the Inquisition to step in and frighten them to death.

Try opening the files in QuickTime Player or VLC Player and exporting them as MP4 files; then try converting those. There is a longish part of the FAQ (http://luminous-landscape.com/videos/Dwnld_Video-faq.shtml) that gives links for VLC etc.
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Hans Knikman on February 22, 2009, 02:38:28 am
Chris,

I use Sorenson Squeeze or TMPGenc to create a DVD. No problems regarding SD quality. I also tried DVDit PRO to create a blue ray dsik also with good quality.


Hans Knikman


Knikman Video Productions
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: benInMA on February 24, 2009, 03:26:18 pm
I recently converted all of the files for "Camera to Print" from .mov to .mp4 and then copied them to my Playstation 3 to watch
them on my HDTV.

It worked fine.  Video quality was fine as well.   You can tell it is not really "high def" but it was certainly good enough
to get the point across.  My converted videos ended up being larger then the originals for some reason.  (I used Handbrake
with the default settings to do the conversion)

I have not looked at the newer videos but 1080p videos would really "sing" for some of this stuff as it would make it much
easier to see things like sharpening in action.  If there was say a 1080p "journal" video from Antarctica I think I'd have a hard
time not buying it!

Great overall experience watching them though, Thanks!
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: Tony B. on March 12, 2009, 08:48:17 pm
Just wanted to add that I found DVDflick works with .mov files, a quick look back through the thread showed one mention of DVDflick in 2007.  It allows for a basic menu so you can start on a selected lesson.  It also allows for adding chapters inside each lesson so you can move forward and back in a lesson a little faster.  It also will burn the dvd's now.  So for a free software it works well.

Until I found this I was unable to watch any .mov files except playing the .mov files my Kodak p&s produced through the camera.  Can not play them through my computer using quicktime without very bad delay/slow play.  Oh, this is using a PC with windows xp.

Tony
Title: Download Video on TV
Post by: samirkharusi on March 31, 2009, 02:06:15 am
The idiocy of far too many video codecs surviving continues to amaze me. VLC Media Player seems to be the most flexible for PC playback. The $100 "WD-TV" media server gizmo seems the most flexible for TV playback. I just put all my media files (videos, images, music) on a couple of terabyte drives, attach the drives to the WD-TV (USB connections) and onto TV via an HDMI cable. No PC involved apart from the download stage. So I have the LLVJ, 300+ downloaded movies, home videos (from the 1950s digitised to current 1080HD), jpegs of all my archived photos (Jpegs only), all my digital music, instantly available on my 70" HD TV, connected to the home theater sound system.

WD-TV. That certainly seems to be the magical $100 gizmo at the moment. There are still codecs that it cannot play, but much fewer than any other device or software I have tried to date.