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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Willow Photography on August 13, 2007, 10:13:28 am
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Phase One is releasing a beta 4.0 of C1 end of this month.
Good for us Phase One owners
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about time!
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someone please refresh my memory...what is this C1 thing? i have faint memories of a strange folder structure....
but seriously: that is good news....although i am really worried about software that comes a year late in beta form.....i am reminded of my leaf years....promises and betas....at least leaf put out betas on a constant basis......
to me it is not a question of how good will it be anymore...it is: how well will it integrate with LR....
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I can't wait for brand new crappy software!
Ken
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A lot of grumpy guys out there.
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A lot of grumpy guys out there.
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Er, didn't we used to buy phase ones because the software was "so good".
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Sure they are - I'll belive it when I see it
~ cole
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Sure they are - I'll belive it when I see it
~ cole
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i still think 3.7.7 is the best software on the market- so version four has a lot to beat.
i kind of like lightroom, but my first gen macbookpro 2gig max ram is a dog with it. c1 runs like a rocketship.
paul
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I LOVED C1, have used it since I bought my 10D.
However I don't like they don't support my ZD Back files
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I love the 2.5meg preview files. When I shoot people/fashion/catalog job I love wasting time backing up all those previews....at 150-180 frames a shot it really adds up.
I love making a new session for every shot...With capture folders, process folders and trash folders... It is really fun at the end of the day or 6 days of shooting hunting down all the low res jpegs and reorganizing them....It adds hours to my day.
I also love when someone changes the name after I import the cards, I lose the unique rawfile names renaiming the files...Unless I use another application. At least they are recognized by C1 now.
I love having to manually back up the captures to another drive. No so in lightroom or Photo Mechanic. For time sake, ie moving locations, I don't always back up the previews. So I love the confidence that I get when the folder sizes dont match up comparing the working folders to the back uped ones.
I love when I am moving quickly and not getting back into the correct session and I loose the trash folder. You can make the processed folder and capture folder what ever you want but you can't remake the trash folder forcing you to manually drag the shots into the trash folder.
I love having to constantly click on the thumbnail folder to scroll up and down in it. Like when you delete an image you have to click on the window again.
I love that my new clients' professional pre-press department has to buy the software to open my rawfiles.
I love the rental fees I collect from a few my clients as they only except Phase raw files saving me hours of processing time. Thank you for that! In fact thats why I spent an extra $7,000 on a Hasselbald body, finder and 80mm lens when I bought the Phase Back and didn't go with a Hasselblad back, camera kit included.
Capture One was the best 5 years ago. Easiest to use if you weren't very computer literate, great file quality and capture quality. Things have changed and Phase needs to get off their butt and build in some better software features...
My 2 cents, or maybe 10 cents.
Ken
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It's interesting how many diverging opinions there are on C1, LR, Aperture, or whatever. Personally, I've never understood the fuss about C1. I find the user I/F to be user unfriendly, confusing, quirky, and positively primitive compared to Aperture and LR. I frankly think LR rendering is better than C1. After doing a number of side by sides between LR and C1, I finally gave up on C1, since in my case at least, LR was consistently producing the best results. I suspect a lot of these feelings of loyalty have more to do with comfort factor, than quality of results. People tend to like what they're used to using.
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C1 is still great..what it can do it does really well...super stable....fast conversions...the folder structure takes some getting used to and is definitely made for a commercial fashion/cataloge studio ....shooting 45 landscapes thoughout a week would be a nightmare to keep everything in line with C1....it is made to set up a shot, take 200 pics, make some changes, 200 more, quickproof, done....you only really go back to the session to process the finals....
proof of how long in the tooth C1 really is, is that phase keeps pushing (what used to be ) iview....i have used iview for years, it is great, but just like C1, it hasn't evolved....
i don't think it is fair to expect phase to come up with a real, full solution (printing, hello C1!!!!)...they make Dbacks.....adobe looked at everything on the market and rolled it into one app and it just makes everything else look 10years old....LR saves me so much time, i really thought i was going to loose it with dealing with files, uploads, galleries,....and the fact that we can expect 1 maybe 2 upgrades to LR in the next year (things added, things worked out,....) makes a C1v4beta (yippie) look even more stale.....
at this point all i want is a phase "module" for LR which would support tethered shooting in LR....maybe even make a processing module....to get a choice in final conversions.....but really....don't try to compete with adobe and put in a "highlight recovery" or "improved sharpening".....
like the previous poster said...i could not believe how much room there was on my HDs when i deleted all the C1 preview files stored in the phase folder structure....
yes i have to wait a couple of seconds for a 1:1 preview to come up (same as in C1 actually) but i know it will get faster and faster.....this is LR 1.1!!!
emailing/ftping 3 different versions of files in different sizes, uploading flash/html galleries...conversions....printing.....and EDITING!!!!!.....all done faster, easier and much more efficient (i don't have all these versions floating around...i don't need to anymore....thank you adobe!!!!)......C1v4 won't be able to compete......
if i even think that i actually paid 300 (or 400?) for C1 when i shot canon....and i paid 150 for LR??? and if i would not have a phase back, they would probably charge me for an upgrade now???
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Count me as another who can't stand C1. Does anyone know if it is possible to convert the P-45 Plus files to dng so they can be read with ACR or LR? My plus back is arriving in a week or two and I can't stand the thought of being forced to use the C1 dinosaur in order to see my files - if not I may just keep the plus back in the box until Adobe upgrades...
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Count me as another who can't stand C1. Does anyone know if it is possible to convert the P-45 Plus files to dng so they can be read with ACR or LR? My plus back is arriving in a week or two and I can't stand the thought of being forced to use the C1 dinosaur in order to see my files - if not I may just keep the plus back in the box until Adobe upgrades...
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I do actually agree with people who prefer LR, me too. Anyone know of any tricks to tether to LR? That would be the final nail in C1's coffin.
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Count me as another who can't stand C1. Does anyone know if it is possible to convert the P-45 Plus files to dng so they can be read with ACR or LR? My plus back is arriving in a week or two and I can't stand the thought of being forced to use the C1 dinosaur in order to see my files - if not I may just keep the plus back in the box until Adobe upgrades...
Hi Tim. I was just informed that my plus is arriving in about a week as well. They must have recently completed a new batch of Mamiya backs.
I've seen others ask about a DNG converter for the plusses, and the answer I've seen in each case is that our only option is to use C1 until the next update to LR comes out.
Regarding the new back, I've been told that the only thing in the upgrade box is the new back - no new battery charger, and no new 2500 mAh batteries. As I recall, you and I both bought the plusses, and took delivery of a P45 to use while waiting. Seems like we should be getting the new battery charger and the new batteries. What have you heard on those items?
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When my dealer contacted me a couple of days ago to let me know the back was ready to ship I asked about the new battery charger - he never heard of it. I gave him all the details, and he finally got back to me with a price - I'm going to stick with what I got, although will have to buy a few new off-brand batteries since I hear the plus backs are quite power hungry. I know these new charges are very nice, but this price is absurd..
--$220.00 is Phase One's price for the charger only.
2500mAh batteries are $90.00 each.--
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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Phase P30+ doesn't yet work with LR.
I do love LR. I think that the old P30 files work with LR.
I CANT wait to drop C1. I will use it sometimes for moire issues.
I paid $80 for an extra battery out of NYC.
Ken
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If I may step in: I use both C1 LE and LR with my EOS 5d files, and while the LR workflow + user interface + flexibility is probably the best of any imaging software I have seen to date, the pure image quality of C1 is better.
C1's strenght is in the shadows that are very very clean + better than in LR. I am on a PC and the flexibility of C1 is quite anachronistic, no preserve highlight slider, the whole user interface is outdated in my opinion. But yet, with Magne Nielsen color profiles the quality is just excellent.
I hope that V4 will improve C1 to a modern application.
Bernie
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2500mAh batteries are $90.00 each.--
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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Hi, Tim,
I just purchased two extra 2500mAh batteries for my trip to the Grand Canyon/American Southwest. I paid $65 each from my local dealer (Optechs Camera). Give Paul or Derek a call there and hopefully they can get you sorted. If not, let me know, and perhaps I can pick them up and drop them in the mail for you.
Tim/Hans:
Also, I found that ACR 4.1/LR 1.1 do read P45+ files properly (at least the test files that I've run through them). It turns out that they don't develop all the + files (the P30+'s don't work, for example), but you should be fine with your P45+ on the latest version of ACR.
Ken,
As for C1, Ken, you hit the nail on the head for me. I find the folder and excessively large previews to be a major hassle. But it is hard to argue with the quality of the results... That is, until ACR 4.1/LR 1.1 came along. For me, the quality of the conversions is now comparable (but I am comparing to C1 v3.x), but the speed and particularly the convenience of Adobe's solutions are quite a bit further along.
Best regards,
Brad
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Brad:
Are you talking about plus files that were shot tethered? I've heard those are the only ones that ACR/LR will support, and everyone else, including Michael R. here in his plus review, says they are not supported by ACR/LR yet. I'm not sure why that would make any difference, but that is what I have been able to gather. Can you confirm this? Thanks...
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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i used to agree that c1 conversions were better then ACR...but with acr4.1 and LR1.1 the difference has gone from better to different....i now actually prefer LR conversions for most of my work....and i am a clean shadow fanatic...
LR shoots tethered only in combination with C1...watched folder...works perfectly...super stable....it gets a little confusing with the folder structure (i almost never use C1 after shooting anymore) but i just trash the session after making sure everything is in place....
again: wouldn't it be great if there was a "shooting" tab in LR?
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i used to agree that c1 conversions were better then ACR...but with acr4.1 and LR1.1 the difference has gone from better to different....i now actually prefer LR conversions for most of my work....and i am a clean shadow fanatic...
LR shoots tethered only in combination with C1...watched folder...works perfectly...super stable....it gets a little confusing with the folder structure (i almost never use C1 after shooting anymore) but i just trash the session after making sure everything is in place....
again: wouldn't it be great if there was a "shooting" tab in LR?
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why is LR so slow? is my computer not up to scratch (macbookpro 2gig/max ram)? if it ran faster, im sure i would like it more. in c1 i can open a large session of 800 images and scroll through the previews fluidily. but in lightroom it takes quite a few seconds to unpixelate each shot- totally unusable when editing a large amount of files.
everytime it opens it has to find the shots in my archive, that slows it down. i only have a quarter of my achive in LR, and its taking up 4gbs already.
i also only shoot tethered, i havnt tried the c1/LR folder watching thing. but i find c1 completely stable and fast to tether to.
maybe i just need more time on LR, but i hardly have enough time to keep up with shooting, let alone learn another piece of software.
also, i want to buy a new imac, 2.8 gig- but should i be looking a macpros if i intend to use LR?
paul
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why is LR so slow? is my computer not up to scratch (macbookpro 2gig/max ram)? if it ran faster, im sure i would like it more. in c1 i can open a large session of 800 images and scroll through the previews fluidily. but in lightroom it takes quite a few seconds to unpixelate each shot- totally unusable when editing a large amount of files.
everytime it opens it has to find the shots in my archive, that slows it down. i only have a quarter of my achive in LR, and its taking up 4gbs already.
i also only shoot tethered, i havnt tried the c1/LR folder watching thing. but i find c1 completely stable and fast to tether to.
maybe i just need more time on LR, but i hardly have enough time to keep up with shooting, let alone learn another piece of software.
also, i want to buy a new imac, 2.8 gig- but should i be looking a macpros if i intend to use LR?
paul
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i have had one situation when LR was crawling...optimizing the galery solved that problem....i work on a macbookpro 2.33/3gb ram/200/7200rpm....and honestly all in all LR is as fast as C1...editing is so much better then C1....with ratings, collections!!!! and virtual copies.....a joy....
i wish LR had the loupe (like bridge has) that would take care of having to open the full rez files....i work with P30 files and can flip through (fit to screen) files in the library mode with no wait time.....
was looking at the new imacs today....really want to buy one (actually2) but the glossy screen does not seem right....i never liked glossy to begin with and i doubt it will work for critical color work...a shame...i would have bought 2 and use them exclusively....check on the web, people are having problems with the 20" screens, the 24" seems to be better, but someone did a calibration test (3 pucks, apple cinema display, 20 and 24") and the ACD wins easily....and i am not a big fan of the ACD...i guess there is a reason why the whole 24imac cost as much as my eizo:).....
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Ken,
As for C1, Ken, you hit the nail on the head for me. I find the folder and excessively large previews to be a major hassle. But it is hard to argue with the quality of the results... That is, until ACR 4.1/LR 1.1 came along. For me, the quality of the conversions is now comparable (but I am comparing to C1 v3.x), but the speed and particularly the convenience of Adobe's solutions are quite a bit further along.
Best regards,
Brad
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Brad,
I was think MORE on user interface than quality. Lets face it, quality is king for most of us and I have really no choice as I don't shoot tethered. I just like bitching and I hope that someone hears me! It least C1 is faster than a year ago.....I can remember processing Canon 1dsMII files in camera raw at a rate of 4 times C1 with similar quality.
Bottom line my fingers are crossed for version 4.
Ken
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i have had one situation when LR was crawling...optimizing the galery solved that problem....i work on a macbookpro 2.33/3gb ram/200/7200rpm....and honestly all in all LR is as fast as C1...editing is so much better then C1....with ratings, collections!!!! and virtual copies.....a joy....
i wish LR had the loupe (like bridge has) that would take care of having to open the full rez files....i work with P30 files and can flip through (fit to screen) files in the library mode with no wait time.....
was looking at the new imacs today....really want to buy one (actually2) but the glossy screen does not seem right....i never liked glossy to begin with and i doubt it will work for critical color work...a shame...i would have bought 2 and use them exclusively....check on the web, people are having problems with the 20" screens, the 24" seems to be better, but someone did a calibration test (3 pucks, apple cinema display, 20 and 24") and the ACD wins easily....and i am not a big fan of the ACD...i guess there is a reason why the whole 24imac cost as much as my eizo:).....
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yeah, im sold on the fact that the imac 24 2.8 is selling for less than my 30inch cost me. it looks a bit more pro- the previous imac is a toy. as for absolute colour accuracy, i dont do my own retouching- so i use my retouchers screens as final ok. i also dont shot beauty stuff, and my shots are really mucked around with that im not that fussy. as long as the info is captured, evrything get adjusted later.
im concerned about the glossy screen as well, my agents got one on her macbook, and it looks bad. i hope some one comes out with a screen cover that would fix that.
paul
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Brad:
Are you talking about plus files that were shot tethered? I've heard those are the only ones that ACR/LR will support, and everyone else, including Michael R. here in his plus review, says they are not supported by ACR/LR yet. I'm not sure why that would make any difference, but that is what I have been able to gather. Can you confirm this? Thanks...
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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I don't know if the files I have were shot tethered or not... They are sample photos provided by Chris Lawrey at Capture Integration.
However they were shot, these P45+ files read and develop just fine in ACR 4.1.
My P45+ hasn't arrived yet, but when it does, I'll definitely be giving it a try (I only shoot untethered to a CF card).
-Brad
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Brad,
I was think MORE on user interface than quality. Lets face it, quality is king for most of us and I have really no choice as I don't shoot tethered. I just like bitching and I hope that someone hears me! It least C1 is faster than a year ago.....I can remember processing Canon 1dsMII files in camera raw at a rate of 4 times C1 with similar quality.
Bottom line my fingers are crossed for version 4.
Ken
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I agree with you completely, Ken.
I'll have to see if the + files I have are working only because they were shot tethered. I also do not shoot tethered, and will be very sad if my workflow breaks when my new back arrives!
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I don't know if the files I have were shot tethered or not... They are sample photos provided by Chris Lawrey at Capture Integration.
However they were shot, these P45+ files read and develop just fine in ACR 4.1.
My P45+ hasn't arrived yet, but when it does, I'll definitely be giving it a try (I only shoot untethered to a CF card).
-Brad
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I just received my P45+. ACR 4.1 opens the P45 files ok, but NOT the P45+
at all. You only see the thumbnail. It will not open regardless where you put the ACR format files.
and chris' file did not open for me either. In bridge it shows thumb, but double click and the ACR window does NOT come up.
Bradey, how did you open the file?
Maybe the next release.... (or maybe there is something special you need to do?
Victor
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I agree with you completely, Ken.
I'll have to see if the + files I have are working only because they were shot tethered. I also do not shoot tethered, and will be very sad if my workflow breaks when my new back arrives!
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Brad, I just fired up the camera....tethered it works in LR...That is I shot to C1 and then imported the images into LR. I made a tiff from LR. I can't speak of the quality but it "works" with a P30+ back. Shot to a card...no go. Oh well. I hope this helps.
Ken
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Hi, Ken,
I hadn't heard before that the files from the Phase + backs are actually different depending on if one shoots to a CF card or shoots tethered. That's a new one for me.
Thanks for letting us know about the tethered "solution"... At least until ACR 4.2 comes out (we can only hope for full + support in the next version).
Victor, the P45+ files I have must have been shot tethered, if this odd business of getting a different file when shooting tethered is true.
I'm running PSCS3 Extended with ACR 4.1 and without doing anything more special than double-clicking the file, the full res image (not the thumbnail preview) is being processed. No special tricks or secret key presses.
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I don't know if the files I have were shot tethered or not... They are sample photos provided by Chris Lawrey at Capture Integration.
However they were shot, these P45+ files read and develop just fine in ACR 4.1.
My P45+ hasn't arrived yet, but when it does, I'll definitely be giving it a try (I only shoot untethered to a CF card).
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Brad,
The files I shot of the 3 cars with the P30+ and P45+ were shot to a card. If anyone needs me to post them again, please let me know.
Chris Lawery
Sales Manager
Capture Integration
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Seems like we continue to get conflicting info about this ACR/LR and plus files tethered or not - Michael and most other folks (including folks on the Phase One support board) say you cannot open plus files with the current ACR/LR while a few folks here have been able to do it. Could it be that PS Extended does support these files while the standard version does not? Or does anyone else have an answer?
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Brad,
The files I shot of the 3 cars with the P30+ and P45+ were shot to a card. If anyone needs me to post them again, please let me know.
Chris Lawery
Sales Manager
Capture Integration
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Thanks, Chris.
I have the pictures of the Capture Integration office interior with the jerseys on the wall to the left, and a photograph of a bearded gentleman sitting on a stool beside some cabinetry.
Would you happen to remember if those images were shot tethered or to a card? (I'm very surprised that the file format would change depending on how they were shot.)
Hi, Tim,
Yes, it is puzzling, the conflicting reports. I seriously doubt that there is a difference between PSCS3 regular and extended, because the functionality is in ACR 4.1. Further, Lightroom 1.1 behaves exactly the same for me as PSCS3X/ACR 4.1 (ie. the P45+ files I have also work fine in LR 1.1).
All I can do is continue to wait for my + back and see if I can explain any of this strangeness...
Best regards,
Brad
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Brad, I just fired up the camera....tethered it works in LR...That is I shot to C1 and then imported the images into LR. I made a tiff from LR. I can't speak of the quality but it "works" with a P30+ back. Shot to a card...no go. Oh well. I hope this helps.
Ken
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this sounds really strange....are you aware of the issue with importing files into LR directly from the card? that did not work with P30 files at first either....LR only imported the previews....the solution is to copy the files from the card to a folder and import from that folder into LR....does not really take more time, but is a little annoying.....
this is the first time hearing that P+ files are processed by LR...i guess you are lucky!
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this sounds really strange....are you aware of the issue with importing files into LR directly from the card? that did not work with P30 files at first either....LR only imported the previews....the solution is to copy the files from the card to a folder and import from that folder into LR....does not really take more time, but is a little annoying.....
this is the first time hearing that P+ files are processed by LR...i guess you are lucky!
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I have Photoshop cs3 standard, the most resent version and LR, the most recent version....I used C1 , most recent version, tethered and then Opened LR and imported the Captures folder from the C1 session. I was able to make a tiff from LR....I would NOT want that to be my work flow everyday.
I hope that this helps,
Ken
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I have Photoshop cs3 standard, the most resent version and LR, the most recent version....I used C1 , most recent version, tethered and then Opened LR and imported the Captures folder from the C1 session. I was able to make a tiff from LR....I would NOT want that to be my work flow everyday.
I hope that this helps,
Ken
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i shoot tethered all the time from C1 into LR with the autoimport/watched folder function in LR....works perfectly, no problems at all....i have a P30, not being able to open the + files in LR has been one of the reasons i have not upgraded yet....so i guess it is good news that yours seems to be supported.....
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i shoot tethered all the time from C1 into LR with the autoimport/watched folder function in LR....works perfectly, no problems at all....i have a P30, not being able to open the + files in LR has been one of the reasons i have not upgraded yet....so i guess it is good news that yours seems to be supported.....
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It's been mentioned previously - LR supports P30+ RAW files when shooting tethered, just not if captured via CF card. HTH.
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As noted by some, but not all of you with plus backs, I just got my p-45 plus back today and I cannot open the files with either LR or ACR 4.1. Since I simply cannot stand C1 I guess I will have to put this back in the bag and on the shelf until Adobe updates to 4.2...If any of you who have been successful opening plus files with ACR or LR know the trick, please post it here (I won't be shooting tethered). Thanks...
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It's been mentioned previously - LR supports P30+ RAW files when shooting tethered, just not if captured via CF card. HTH.
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this does not make any sense...either a file format is supported or not....shooting tethered means shooting into a folder which can be watched and autoimported into LR....which would be exactly the same as importing from any folder....
with the P files it was a similar issue, some backs were supported, some weren't....some with problems some without...but none worked tethered but not non-tethered....
a frequent problem mentioned then was that the files were not supported when copied directly from the card....LR only read the previews....copying the files onto the HD and importing from there did the trick....
anyway....with the next LR update this will be resolved anyway.....
it does not surprise me that the v4beta/demo did not turn any heads....if C1 was 20times faster, it still would not help me with my workflow....i am more then happy with my conversion times out of LR..it's everything LR does before, after and on top of C1 that makes it an obvious choice for me....
but either way...whatever trick phase can pull off, adobe will have the same feature in LR a couple of months later...and probably faster and better...this competition was over the second adobe seriously entered this software niche.....they waited and looked at everything available, hired some of the best people and made sure they would have the best product....and they do....
now we are looking at 08 for a C1v4 pro version? why not just say 09? i mean i can easily wait this long for something i actually don't need anymore.... C1 3.7 does everything v4 will do (highlight, shadow lsiders and new web galleries don't count....especially if i had to wait 12-18 months for them)....
the 1DSmkIII was announced today....22mpix, 14bit....nothing to really worry phase....but 3" screen and live-view....i highly recommend checking out a demo of the live-view feature (even available on the 1dmkIII)...this should make phase blush....
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but either way...whatever trick phase can pull off, adobe will have the same feature in LR a couple of months later...and probably faster and better...this competition was over the second adobe seriously entered this software niche.....they waited and looked at everything available, hired some of the best people and made sure they would have the best product....and they do....
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Not so. This is likie saying you are the "best" photographer. Adobe has a very good solid Raw converter but it's not necessarily "best" in any way. If you have time, download the demo of Raw Developer and compare the file quality, or run Canon DPP on a Canon file ... either of these will knock your socks off.
C1 is very very good with Phase files. And so it should be.
Edmund
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This is still just nuts - some of you have reported you have opened Plus files with standard ACR 4.1 or LR, untethered, but were shot by someone else - a Phase dealer. The rest of the world cannot open the files. What is going on? Is there anyone here who has actually shot a plus file to a card and then able to open it via ACR or LR? If so, is there a magic word? Thanks...
Also, does anyone know for sure if DNG will be included in the C1 beta 4? That would solve the issue for now as well.
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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Is there anyone here who has actually shot a plus file to a card and then able to open it via ACR or LR? If so, is there a magic word? Thanks...
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Please re-read the above posts...
The short answer is NO.
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ScottKen:
I have read the posts several times and some guys still claim they have opened non-tethered plus files with ACR - that is why I continue to question this...
Tim Ernst in Arkansas
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Not so. This is likie saying you are the "best" photographer. Adobe has a very good solid Raw converter but it's not necessarily "best" in any way. If you have time, download the demo of Raw Developer and compare the file quality, or run Canon DPP on a Canon file ... either of these will knock your socks off.
C1 is very very good with Phase files. And so it should be.
Edmund
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i am not saying that LR does the best conversions...IMO LR is the best all around software solution available today...
and actually i prefer the LR conversions of my P30 files to the C1 conversions....Lr gives me everything i want: clean shadows, wide DR and supersmooth files....C1 is looking a little brittle in comparison....
i really see the difference when i use the RZ lenses....if the lenses are top quality, the file needs no sharpening and LR does the better job...for me...but this is very subjective.....i am sure other people with different subject matter would disagree....
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I would say at this point to wait on it......I am. At some point they will open with out a magic wand.
Ken
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I use both C1 and LR. LR for my Canon 5D files and C1 for the P25 files. I'd probably be using LR for the whole damn thing if it could only be able to apply the LCC correction to the phase files. It's a major issue when working with a large format, wide angle lens. Kind of stinks, as I've never been a C1 fan, but I'm stuck using it until Adobe figures out how to do the LCC correction, which is probably not at the top of thier "features we need to add" list.
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I use both C1 and LR. LR for my Canon 5D files and C1 for the P25 files. I'd probably be using LR for the whole damn thing if it could only be able to apply the LCC correction to the phase files. It's a major issue when working with a large format, wide angle lens. Kind of stinks, as I've never been a C1 fan, but I'm stuck using it until Adobe figures out how to do the LCC correction, which is probably not at the top of thier "features we need to add" list.
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Would shooting a reference gray card at the start of each session not be workable?
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Would shooting a reference gray card at the start of each session not be workable?
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No, it is something different. Wide angle large format lenses produce magenta and purple color casts with a Phase one back. Don't know if this is the case with all digital backs, but the work aronnd is to shoot a frame while covering the lens with a white plastic card. This is then saved as a "lens cast calibration" or LCC in C!, which can then be applied to the frame and the color cast is removed. It works pretty well, although until somebody addresses this issue with another raw converter, you're prettyt much married to C1 as long as you shoot wide angle, large format. BTW - I've also got a Contax 645 that I use with the same back, and have almost never seen this issue.