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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 09:52:22 am

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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 09:52:22 am
Dear All,

My name is Thierry Hagenauer. I am Sinar's Sales Manager for Asia, Pacific and Middle East.

After having followed since a few weeks different topics and read some of the posts in LL, I have found that having somebody to give advices and information about the Sinar products, and also to be able to correct sometimes some misunderstandings and wrong information given about Sinar products would be appropriate.

You will therefore "see" me from now on, intervening or posting whenever I feel it necessary, or when specifically asked a question, under the user name "thsinar", although not officially appointed by and in the name or on behalf of Sinar AG, but as an individual and with the knowledge and agreement of my management.

I would like also to point out that I do not have any special agenda on this discussion forum but to try to speak honestly about the products I have been and still am using, without deforming or giving wrong information. It is not at all my intention to denigrate or speak bad in any way about other brands represented here.

Also, as a sales manager and responsible for many countries, I am obviously not able to be online 24/24, 7/7, and thus sometimes unable to answer immediately.

Also, I do not pretend to know it all and therefore would like to seek the understanding and patience of all here if sometimes I need to get the information directly from Sinar or elsewhere.

I hope that I could be of help for some of you here and am in any case at your disposal to try to help.

My background:

1980 - 1990: commercial photographer in Strasbourg, France.
Since June 1990 and until July 2003: LF Workshops and Seminars Responsible at Sinar AG Switzerland, Sales Manager Asia, Pacific and Middle East since 1995.

My details and contacts are following :
 
SINAR AG
Thierry Hagenauer
Sales Manager Asia - Pacific - Middle East
email: thierry.hagenauer@sinar.ch
 
All the best to all,
Thierry
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Post by: rainer_v on December 06, 2006, 11:25:35 am
hi thierry,

good to have you here, as i feel there is in general a good response to the direct presence of someone of the manufactors,-  for various questions which appear....
and good to say here in the forum hello to you as a friend,  who supported my shooting in bangkok in an absoulte  great way, by far more than i could have had expected by any "sales manager".....    

best regards from munich, wish i would be in bangkok too, right now.
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Post by: Graham Mitchell on December 06, 2006, 11:29:46 am
Bienvenu, Thierry.

If there is a package deal with the e22 or any promotion concerning the e22, please let us know. I know there are a few people in this forum, including me, who are interested in the products but are not finding the dealers very helpful (with a few exceptions).
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Post by: yaya on December 06, 2006, 03:16:28 pm
Welcome on board Thierry and thanks for joining!

Take my advice and beware of the wolves here, they bite  

Yair

[span style=\'font-size:8pt;line-height:100%\']Creo UK Ltd., a subsidiary of Kodak.
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 Yair Shahar | Leaf EMEA | Regional Manager |
 mob: +44 77 8992 8199 | yair.shahar@kodak.com | www.leaf-photography.com [/span]
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Post by: rethmeier on December 06, 2006, 03:19:05 pm
Welcome Thierry!
I think it's great to have a Sinar voice in the southern hemisphere!
Warm regards,
Willem.
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Post by: marcwilson on December 06, 2006, 03:26:02 pm
Thierry,
Hi.

It is fairly easy to get hold of refurbished phase one backs and also leaf ones.
What is the situation with sinar refurbished backs such as the e-22...availability, rough pricing etc?

Is this something that need to be asked through my local sinar distributer here in the u.k. or can information be got from yourself?

Thanks,

Marc
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Post by: eronald on December 06, 2006, 03:35:34 pm
Welcome Thierry !

 Thank you for coming here !

 We'll sniff at you a bit before we start biting, don't worry !  
 
 All of us here are looking forward very much to the new Sinar Hy6  camera. Those of us who saw it at Photokona have been very impressed.  Do you have any commercial or technical details you would like to release at this point ?

Edmund
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Post by: Henrik Paul on December 06, 2006, 03:38:31 pm
Even though I have absolutely minimal experience on medium format (apart from 5 frames on a 70's Zeiss-Ikon pocket 7x9) and not being a medium-formatter myself, I must express my gratitude for getting people at photography-related companies to more or less officially represent themselves and answer questions.

I hope this trend would spread to other companies aswell, such as Nikon and Canon.

Welcome.
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 07:31:23 pm
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Bienvenu, Thierry.

If there is a package deal with the e22 or any promotion concerning the e22, please let us know. I know there are a few people in this forum, including me, who are interested in the products but are not finding the dealers very helpful (with a few exceptions).
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Thank you Graham!

Yes, I have been reading about you looking for such a package. May I ask in which country you are based?

Basically such packages are available in each country, as well with the eMotion 22 as with the 75, the 54M and the 54H.

Pls. let me know so that I can forward to the right sales manager.

Best regards,
Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 07:33:35 pm
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Welcome on board Thierry and thanks for joining!

Take my advice and beware of the wolves here, they bite  

Yair

[span style=\'font-size:8pt;line-height:100%\']Creo UK Ltd., a subsidiary of Kodak.
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 Yair Shahar | Leaf EMEA | Regional Manager |
 mob: +44 77 8992 8199 | yair.shahar@kodak.com | www.leaf-photography.com [/span]
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Thanks Yair: I will be careful!

Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 07:39:16 pm
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Thierry,
Hi.

It is fairly easy to get hold of refurbished phase one backs and also leaf ones.
What is the situation with sinar refurbished backs such as the e-22...availability, rough pricing etc?

Is this something that need to be asked through my local sinar distributer here in the u.k. or can information be got from yourself?

Thanks,

Marc
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Dear Marc,

Thanks for your request. Please note that there are currently not such refurbished backs from Sinar. I will however discuss this at Sinar since I feel like you that the demand for such lower priced MF backs is high. Hopefully we will be able to propose something starting next year.

Best regards,
Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: BJNY on December 06, 2006, 07:46:59 pm
Welcome Thierry,
Terrific first post.  It doesn't ever hurt to have more no-nonsense straight-shooters onboard.
Billy
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 07:54:44 pm
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Welcome Thierry !

 Thank you for coming here !

 We'll sniff at you a bit before we start biting, don't worry !   
 
 All of us here are looking forward very much to the new Sinar Hy6  camera. Those of us who saw it at Photokona have been very impressed.  Do you have any commercial or technical details you would like to release at this point ?

Edmund
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hi Edmund,

I have been noticing that you are very active here, and largely contribute to the discussions. Thanks for the welcome.

As for the new coming Hy6, there is nothing much I can say at this stage which was not said and which is not already known by you guys here:

- the introduction of this camera will be within the 2nd quartal of 2007
- Sinar will distribute and sell it through its own traditional sales channels worldwide (as well as ALL professional Rollei MF cameras and equipment from the today called cie. "Franke & Heidecke")
- it will be an "open" camera system
- the Hy 6 accepts all exisiting lenses and almost all accessories from the 6008 serie
- there are already packages available from our distributors

- for technical information I can send a brochure offline to anybody contacting me at my email address below

Best regards
Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: Graham Mitchell on December 06, 2006, 08:24:26 pm
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Yes, I have been reading about you looking for such a package. May I ask in which country you are based?

I'm in Estonia (where there is no Sinar dealer).

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Pls. let me know so that I can forward to the right sales manager.

Helga Frorath already put me onto the Swedish dealer who told me he had a used e22 back and would call back the next day, but didn't. A week later I sent a reminder email but never heard from him again.
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 09:08:13 pm
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I'm in Estonia (where there is no Sinar dealer).
Helga Frorath already put me onto the Swedish dealer who told me he had a used e22 back and would call back the next day, but didn't. A week later I sent a reminder email but never heard from him again.
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Alright, Graham, I shall contact Helga and Niklas from Molander and ask them to get in touch with you as soon as possible.

Best regards,
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 09:46:16 pm
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Welcome Thierry,
Terrific first post.  It doesn't ever hurt to have more no-nonsense straight-shooters onboard.
Billy
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Thanks Billy!
It's appreciated.
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Post by: Kumar on December 06, 2006, 10:34:45 pm
Thierry,

It's good to see a Sinar representative on board here.

I have a couple of questions for you. I am a little unclear on the additional hardware requirements for Live Video. Is an LCD shutter required? Can Live Video be enabled for all Sinar backs? And I'm definitely looking for refurbished backs with full warranty and upgrade options!

Also, with the renewed interest in shift only cameras for architecture, is Sinar likely to bring out an updated version of the Handy?

Cheers,
Kumar
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Post by: thsinar on December 06, 2006, 10:49:40 pm
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Thierry,

It's good to see a Sinar representative on board here.

I have a couple of questions for you. I am a little unclear on the additional hardware requirements for Live Video. Is an LCD shutter required? Can Live Video be enabled for all Sinar backs? And I'm definitely looking for refurbished backs with full warranty and upgrade options!

Also, with the renewed interest in shift only cameras for architecture, is Sinar likely to bring out an updated version of the Handy?

Cheers,
Kumar
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hi Kumar,

All Sinarbacks, with the exception of the eMotion 22 & 75 yet (feasibility checks and implementation in process), have the live-video feature included, without any additional price.

Although Live-Video can be activated and works without LC shutter, this is required for achievement of a peffect live image, when using the SB 54M, 54H, and the older SB 44 (Kodak sensors). With the SB 23 L, 23 H, 43 L, 43 H (Phlipps/Dalsa sensors) a good live image can be obtained without LC shutter.

Refurbished backs: as posted a little while ago, Sinar is checking currently the feasibility and introduction of such offers starting next year.

We do not have any plans currently to update the Sinar Handy. It might be worth for you, although not the same, to have a look on our Sinar f3, a light design for digital photography on location: detailled information and brochure can be downloaded from www.sinarcameras.com

I hope this answers your questions.

Best regards,
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Post by: BJNY on December 06, 2006, 10:56:55 pm
Thierry,
I'm curious about the EyeLike Precision M22 with either the 6008AF/Hy6 and/or p3:
? Will the upcoming software support the M22 with Rollei and Schneider electronic shutters?  Will faster than i.s.o.25 be available on the M22?
? It would be nice to be able to configure-to-order a p3 with a wide angle bellows and geared rail clamp just like I'm able to configure an Apple Mac Pro tower.
? Will the Rollei 6000 lens adapter fit onto a p3 lens board?
Thank you,
Billy
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Post by: pprdigital on December 07, 2006, 12:30:56 am
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hi Edmund,

I have been noticing that you are very active here, and largely contribute to the discussions. Thanks for the welcome.

As for the new coming Hy6, there is nothing much I can say at this stage which was not said and which is not already known by you guys here:

- the introduction of this camera will be within the 2nd quartal of 2007
- Sinar will distribute and sell it through its own traditional sales channels worldwide (as well as ALL professional Rollei MF cameras and equipment from the today called cie. "Franke & Heidecke")
- it will be an "open" camera system
- the Hy 6 accepts all exisiting lenses and almost all accessories from the 6008 serie
- there are already packages available from our distributors

- for technical information I can send a brochure offline to anybody contacting me at my email address below

Best regards
Thierry
Sinar
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Thierry:

Good to see you here. When you say "open system", does that mean one could put a Leaf Aptus, Phase One P series or Hasselblad CF digital back on it with the appropriate adapter? And if yes, then assuming that they themselves would likely produce the adapter? Is more cooperation than that needed, and if so, is it forthcoming?

Thanks,
Steve Hendrix
PPR Digital
One of your friendly, neighborhood (USA) Sinar dealers.
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Post by: thsinar on December 07, 2006, 04:08:26 am
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Thierry,
I'm curious about the EyeLike Precision M22 with either the 6008AF/Hy6 and/or p3:
? Will the upcoming software support the M22 with Rollei and Schneider electronic shutters?  Will faster than i.s.o.25 be available on the M22?
? It would be nice to be able to configure-to-order a p3 with a wide angle bellows and geared rail clamp just like I'm able to configure an Apple Mac Pro tower.
? Will the Rollei 6000 lens adapter fit onto a p3 lens board?
Thank you,
Billy
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hi Bill,

please find my answers to your questions:

- 1.  I'm curious about the EyeLike Precision M22 with either the 6008AF/Hy6 and/or p3?

The Eyelike Precision M 22 can be fitted already today to the 6008 AF with the corresponding adapter plate, and to the Sinar p3 with the Hasselblad V adapter plate (without the guaranty that the tild & swing axes are in the right place).
At the moment, there are no plans to produce other adaptaters for this back.
Remark: the Eyellike Precision M 22 can only be operated with the Eyelike CapturePro software, not with Sinar Captureshop.

2.  Will the upcoming software support the M22 with Rollei and Schneider electronic shutters?

The coming Sinar Exposure software will support the Eyelike Precision 22.
The support of Schneider lenses is planed.
There are yet no plans to support Rollei shutters.

3.  It would be nice to be able to configure-to-order a p3 with a wide angle bellows and geared rail clamp just like I'm able to configure an Apple Mac Pro tower.

This is already possible today, that a customer can order his desired camera configuration, by ordering the different items.

4.  Will the Rollei 6000 lens adapter fit onto a p3 lens board?

There is nothing such planed today. It also does not make much sense, to fit a MF lens to a view camera like the p3 for because of the limitations which are important.

Hopefully this answers.

Best regards,
Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: eronald on December 07, 2006, 04:28:43 am
Hi Thierry,

Thank you for coming here to help and inform us.

I think all of us are very impressed by the Hy6 specs, and its release as an "open" platform.
I have one supplementary commercial question, and one technical question. Both questions  are, I believe, of interest to all members of this forum.


- Is Phase now on board ? In other words will Phase make backs for the Hy6 ? It has become standard advice here to new buyers of Phase backs to tell them to get the "Advanced Warranty" package that allows a change of mounts, exactly because of the Hy6 appearance, and it would be nice if you could confirm this is sound advice.

- Do the new lenses encode distance settings and write them into the EXIF file data ? I believe this is of use in effecting lens corrections in software.

Edmund



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hi Edmund,

I have been noticing that you are very active here, and largely contribute to the discussions. Thanks for the welcome.

As for the new coming Hy6, there is nothing much I can say at this stage which was not said and which is not already known by you guys here:

- the introduction of this camera will be within the 2nd quartal of 2007
- Sinar will distribute and sell it through its own traditional sales channels worldwide (as well as ALL professional Rollei MF cameras and equipment from the today called cie. "Franke & Heidecke")
- it will be an "open" camera system
- the Hy 6 accepts all exisiting lenses and almost all accessories from the 6008 serie
- there are already packages available from our distributors

- for technical information I can send a brochure offline to anybody contacting me at my email address below

Best regards
Thierry
Sinar
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Post by: LasseDPF on December 07, 2006, 04:52:51 am
This is something that I am looking for as well. This would be a very good thing to have.

Also, being able to type in focus distance and have the camera focus at that distance when shooting thetered..  I might be the only one looking for such a feature?

Lasse

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Hi Thierry,

- Do the new lenses encode distance settings and write them into the EXIF file data ? I believe this is of use in effecting lens corrections in software.

Edmund
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Post by: TorbenEskerod on December 07, 2006, 05:15:14 am
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Post by: BJNY on December 07, 2006, 06:02:55 am
I don't imagine Thierry being able to answer the question about Phase One joining in, as Sinar is a licensee just as Leaf is.  Only F+H or Phase are in the know.
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Post by: thsinar on December 07, 2006, 06:34:21 am
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I don't imagine Thierry being able to answer the question about Phase One joining in, as Sinar is a licensee just as Leaf is.  Only F+H or Phase are in the know.
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you are (partly) right: I'm not yet able to answer this issue, for not having the full knowledge and because you can imagine that at this stage discussions are certainly not closed.

I beg all for a little patience and you will all be informed in due time, being it through myself here, or officially.

Thanks for your understanding and best regards,
Thierry
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Post by: TorbenEskerod on December 07, 2006, 06:55:10 am
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Post by: thsinar on December 07, 2006, 07:07:32 am
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Dear Thierry

Surely you must know about AF-WA lens options for the Hy6 !

Best

Torben Eskerod
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Also here, I beg for your patience for the time being. There are certainly ongoing processes, but nothing to allow me to communicate it officially.

I will in any case feedback from my own in due time.

Thierry
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Post by: Henry Goh on December 07, 2006, 07:10:12 am
It is wonderful to see Thiery here.  Now we are getting better information rather than speculations and sometimes, misleading "experiences".

Thiery a BIG welcome to you and I hope as an old P2 user, I can salvage some of my gear for future work with a suitable digital back rather than dumping everything at a big loss on Ebay.

Henry Goh
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Post by: khwanaon on December 07, 2006, 10:15:19 pm
hi Thierry!

Welcome and great to have you joining here.

When is the eVolution 75 multishot available? Will it have 4- AND 16-shot modes?

Thanks,
Aon
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Post by: thsinar on December 08, 2006, 05:56:36 am
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hi Thierry!

Welcome and great to have you joining here.

When is the eVolution 75 multishot available? Will it have 4- AND 16-shot modes?

Thanks,
Aon
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hi Aon,

the eVolution is planed for the first quartal of 2007

This back is planed to have single, as well as multishot function (4-shot only).

Best regards,
Thierry
Sinar