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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: jjlphoto on November 27, 2006, 09:19:38 pm

Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: jjlphoto on November 27, 2006, 09:19:38 pm
I'm looking at getting an Epson 3800 as soon as possible. Anybody know the release date? I was considering ordering it at B&H.

Also, for B&W, it seems the favorites are Crane Museo Silver Rag or Innova F-Type FibaPrint Gloss Ultra Smooth. Any comments on either of these?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: digitaldog on November 27, 2006, 09:32:52 pm
The 3800 is awesome (I've had one a few weeks). Can't comment on the papers. I'm a Premium Luster man. The canned profiles with the Epson papers are really great if that's an incentives to stick with their stuff.
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: picnic on November 27, 2006, 10:41:26 pm
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Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: picnic on November 27, 2006, 10:45:23 pm
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The 3800 is awesome (I've had one a few weeks). Can't comment on the papers. I'm a Premium Luster man. The canned profiles with the Epson papers are really great if that's an incentives to stick with their stuff.
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You know you are the only one in the US that has one LOL.  We are all chomping at the bit to get ours.  The reports from the European folks are great also.

Diane
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: jjlphoto on November 27, 2006, 11:12:47 pm
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The 3800 is awesome (I've had one a few weeks).

The only 3800 on the continent AND an extra Artisan in your garage- you're making quite a target of yourself Mr. Rodney!  
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: smthopr on November 27, 2006, 11:21:59 pm
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The 3800 is awesome (I've had one a few weeks). Can't comment on the papers. I'm a Premium Luster man. The canned profiles with the Epson papers are really great if that's an incentives to stick with their stuff.
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Andrew,

I'm interested in getting this printer, but I'm most concerned about the gamut in dark flesh tones and dark greens. I've just always hated the way my 6 ink epsons printed these colors. Does the 3800 do well in this regard? I'm not concerned with the bright, saturated stuff that most people think of as "gamut"...

Thanks,
-bruce
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: Schewe on November 28, 2006, 12:04:28 am
The whole line up of the K3 printers have a much better total volume of colors (particularly in deep saturated color) than any of the previous Ultrachrome or earlier inks. So, yes, the 3800 will be better in deep color than any 6 color printer.
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: K.C. on November 28, 2006, 01:23:38 am
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The 3800 is awesome (I've had one a few weeks). Can't comment on the papers. I'm a Premium Luster man. The canned profiles with the Epson papers are really great if that's an incentives to stick with their stuff.
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Compared to the Canon iPF5000 ?

Yeah, yeah, I know. Epson gave you the show printer so that you'd make posts like this.  

But hey, you're amongst friends. So spill the beans.  
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: ericbullock on November 28, 2006, 08:12:25 am
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Also, for B&W, it seems the favorites are Crane Museo Silver Rag or Innova F-Type FibaPrint Gloss Ultra Smooth. Any comments on either of these?
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You should follow this thread, which discusses the papers you are considering. I don't like the Fiba Gloss because of the stipple. The Crane's is nice and has a softer, warmer print statement. The Hahnemühle Fine Art Pearl performs well and is a brighter sheet. It all depends on what you're printing!

-eric-
Title: Epson 3800 and paper
Post by: digitaldog on November 28, 2006, 09:08:24 am
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Compared to the Canon iPF5000 ?

Yeah, yeah, I know. Epson gave you the show printer so that you'd make posts like this.  

But hey, you're amongst friends. So spill the beans. 
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Canon promised to send me one to test but they dont seem to have their act together in this respect compared to Epson. At Photoshop World, one of the Canon PM's promised one for testing and I suggested he send one to Mac Holbert at Nash Editions as well since there's few others who could put a printer through it's paces better than Mac. Our emails went into a Canon black hole. So I can't comment on the differences other than the few targets I've received from others that I've measured (and wondered about the severe delta in the values).