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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Redcrown on June 27, 2018, 03:30:07 pm
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This from a 70 yo Boomer, so consider the context...
Took 3 grand daughters to the Dairy Queen. Hot but pleasant summer night, just after sundown when all the baseball and soccer games end, so people flood to the DQ. It's a quintessential American experience.
I was surprised that the crowd was not that bad. About 10 inside the store, another 10 or so on the picnic tables outside. Got our orders in under 10 minutes and joined the picnic crown. It was then that I noticed the drive-up queue was wrapped around the block. I counted 17 vehicles, all with kids, and all the kids were staring downward at a glowing screen. Even the ones in car seats were driving distracted.
The outside kids were running all around, making lots of noise, meeting each other, petting dogs. In another hour they would be freshly washed, tucked in bed, and dreaming of things that don't glow in the dark.
The car kids? I don't know what's going to happen to them.
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One group will be the other group's employers...Not sure which group that will be!
Peter
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Our future leaders are in Russia
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Are you sure? I didn't know they spoke Spanish over there.
:-)
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Our Present Leader Annoucnes a Steel Expansion that is NOT Happening (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/06/28/president-trump-announces-a-major-u-s-steel-expansion-that-isnt-happening/?utm_term=.643be613f842)
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Our Present Leader's Charitable Foundation is in Deep Legal Purgatory (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-inconvenient-legal-troubles-that-lie-ahead-for-the-trump-foundation?mbid=nl_Daily%20062818&CNDID=31491322&spMailingID=13779682&spUserID=MTMzNjY1NzcyNTc1S0&spJobID=1422594204&spReportId=MTQyMjU5NDIwNAS2)
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Alan, neither of the two links you have posted has the slightest connection to the topic; and the Washington Post link lies behind a paywall. This is a discussion forum. Try to stay at least a little bit relevant.
Jeremy
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Alan, do you realize that you're posting stuff from The Washington Post, an outfit that's so convinced it's valuable that it insists on charging you to read its fake news? And your other post is from The New Yorker, which is on the same level of veracity as Time magazine.
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And your other post is from The New Yorker, which is on the same level of veracity as Time magazine.
I put both on the level of Pravda, actually. As for leaders, it does worry me that more and more people seem to fixate on their phones and rarely interact with those around them. Not only could valuable social skills be lost, but also the sort of empathy & wisdom that comes from random engagements with others. In its place is a culture of myopia and dare I say, narcissism. While teenagers, my wife and I enforced no-phone weekends and vacations for the entire family (with exception of actual phone calls.)
Kent in SD
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Alan, do you realize that you're posting stuff from The Washington Post, an outfit that's so convinced it's valuable that it insists on charging you to read its fake news?
Yeah! :o
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The OP starts with a social observation and the usual suspects jump at the opportunity to litter yet another thread with irrelevant political crap. They are in such a hurry that they don't even bother proofreading.
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And out jump the usual suspects to give a poke with a stick. It is getting rather old. Does increasing the present polarity really help? But then it is rather more difficult to actually do or say something constructive than enjoy the sport of polarzed rhetoric. Oh yes I know - if you don't like it, don't read it but personally I don't think ignoring issues resolves much of anything.
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Four summers ago it was my turn to pick what to do for summer vacation. I chose riding the VIA train first class across southern Canada! My wife was on board with the idea (pardon the pun,) but my two kids (16 & 20) were horrified! Stuck on a train for three days? :o My youngest son he'd just spend the entire time on his computer, and I dropped the bombshell--no wifi on the train. ;D My oldest son laughed and said he could get wifi through his phone. I didn't tell him his phone wouldn't work in Canada. :) I began telling my oldest son that this was a first class luxury train, and it had a HOT TUB car! It was a long hot tub in a car lined with panoramic windows, and after 10pm it was clothing optional. Rumor was it would be full of naked French college girls that had nothing to do. After he heard that he was looking forward to the trip! On boarding the train the first thing he asked the conductor was where the hot tub car was. I was standing just around the corner and could clearly hear him hollering, "DAD! We took the wrong train--this one doesn't have a hot tub!" I'm still laughing about this as I write. ;D As it turned out both sons had to entertain themselves by talking to fellow passengers they met and actually watching all the scenery go by (that we paid a lot of money for!) My youngest son is now living in Redmond, WA and just a few weeks ago said he was thinking of coming back home to visit and taking the train instead of a plane this time. I asked him why, and he said a lot of interesting people take the train and unlike a plane you can talk to them. So, I think there is hope. :)
Kent in SD
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Four summers ago it was my turn to pick what to do for summer vacation...
Nice story - and, mirabile dictu, relevant to the topic! Congratulations.
Jeremy
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And out jump the usual suspects to give a poke with a stick. It is getting rather old. Does increasing the present polarity really help? But then it is rather more difficult to actually do or say something constructive than enjoy the sport of polarzed rhetoric. Oh yes I know - if you don't like it, don't read it but personally I don't think ignoring issues resolves much of anything.
+1
Cheers,
Bart
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How about some comments on the original post??? And we can un-hijack this thread! We are now at the point where all topics turn to crap.
Peter
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How about some comments on the original post??? And we can un-hijack this thread! We are now at the point where all topics turn to crap.
Peter
+1 but it is the Coffee Corner. As such, I'll state I prefer Sonic to DQ (for those who live in the US where Sonic's are found). Specifically their Real Banana Milkshakes.
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An update from the OP...
I posted this DQ observation on a local forum. Got a reply from a guy who owns 3 DQ stores here in Iowa. One store in the big city, 2 stores in smaller towns. He said he has a problem hiring kids to work the stores, but only in the big city. No problem in the small towns. Most hires are 16 to 18 years old.
Working a DQ during the rush is a tough job. You have to hustle and keep hustling for hours. He said only 1 out of 3 big city kids can cut it. Most fail on their first shift, and don't come back. The keeper rate for small town kids is about 80%.
He said he thinks part of the difference may be that, for the small town kids, there are few alternatives for "inside" work. Working the DQ is hard, but it's clean work, in air conditioning. Beats farm work, landscaping, construction. Big city kids have a thousand strip malls to hunt, with stores that only get 10 customers per hour.
He added that his best workers are girls from a basketball team. They know how to move fast through small crowded spaces.
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+1 but it is the Coffee Corner. As such, I'll state I prefer Sonic to DQ (for those who live in the US where Sonic's are found). Specifically their Real Banana Milkshakes.
You’ve got good taste in politicians but your taste in fast food dessert is woeful. :D. Also, bananas are not dessert anyway. Nasty.
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You’ve got good taste in politicians but your taste in fast food dessert is woeful. :D . Also, bananas are not dessert anyway. Nasty.
I respect your subjective opinion about fast food desserts. I respect your disapproval of bananas in milkshakes. We don't agree, that's fine. I used to like Sonic's Pineapple Milkshakes but the only one's they make with real, fresh fruit is with Bananas. Further, they use real Ice Cream or so they say and it sure tastes like it. DQ? I don't think so.
FWIW, Milkshakes and rarely, an order of Onion Rings is all I'll order at Sonic and this is only when on 'road trips'. Here in Santa Fe, we have three Sonic's and I think two DQ's and I never go; we have much better places to eat thankfully!
Don't like Bananas Foster? A photo (not mine):
Edit: In an attempt at being constructive in the Coffee Corner and for those who do like Bananas and like to bake, this is a winner and goes very, very well with coffee:
Ultimate Banana Bread: Cooks Illustrated
MAKES ONE 9-INCH LOAF
Be sure to use very ripe, heavily speckled (or even black) bananas in this recipe. This recipe can be made using 5 thawed frozen bananas; since they release a lot of liquid naturally, they can bypass the microwaving in step 2 and go directly into the fine-mesh strainer. Do not use a thawed frozen banana in step 4; it will be too soft to slice. Instead, simply sprinkle the top of the loaf with sugar. The test kitchen’s preferred loaf pan measures 8½ by 4½ inches; if you use a 9 by 5-inch loaf pan, start checking for doneness five minutes earlier than advised in the recipe. The texture is best when the loaf is eaten fresh, but it can be stored (cool completely first), covered tightly with plastic wrap, for up to 3 days.
1 3/4
cups (8 3/4 ounces) unbleached all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon table salt
6 large very ripe bananas (about 2 1/4 pounds), peeled (see note)
8 tablespoons (1 stick)
unsalted butter, melted and cooled slightly
2 large eggs
3/4 cup (5 1/4 ounces) packed light brown sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/2 cup walnuts, toasted and coarsely chopped (optional)
2 teaspoons granulated sugar
1 teaspoon Allspice
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Spray 8½ by 4½-inch loaf pan with nonstick cooking spray. Whisk flour, baking soda, and salt together in large bowl.
2. Place 5 bananas in microwave-safe bowl; cover with plastic wrap and cut several steam vents in plastic with paring knife. Microwave on high power until bananas are soft and have released liquid, about 5 minutes. Transfer bananas to fine-mesh strainer placed over medium bowl and allow to drain, stirring occasionally, 15 minutes (you should have ½ to ¾ cup liquid).
3. Transfer liquid to medium saucepan and cook over medium-high heat until reduced to ¼ cup, about 5 minutes. Remove pan from heat, stir reduced liquid into bananas, and mash with potato masher until fairly smooth. Whisk in butter, eggs, brown sugar, and vanilla.
4. Pour banana mixture into flour mixture and stir until just combined with some streaks of flour remaining. Gently fold in walnuts, if using. Scrape batter into prepared pan. Slice remaining banana diagonally into ¼-inch-thick slices. Shingle banana slices on top of either side of loaf, leaving 1½-inch-wide space down center to ensure even rise. Sprinkle granulated sugar evenly over loaf.
5. Bake until toothpick inserted in center of loaf comes out clean, 55 to 75 minutes. Cool bread in pan on wire rack 15 minutes, then remove loaf from pan and continue to cool on wire rack. Serve warm or at room temperature.
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Andrew,
A topic we can all enjoy. Thank you very much. My wife and I are big fans of homemade banana bread. We will try yours for sure.
Peter
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I respect your subjective opinion about fast food desserts. I respect your disapproval of bananas in milkshakes. We don't agree, that's fine. I used to like Sonic's Pineapple Milkshakes but the only one's they make with real, fresh fruit is with Bananas. Further, they use real Ice Cream or so they say and it sure tastes like it. DQ? I don't think so.
FWIW, Milkshakes and rarely, an order of Onion Rings is all I'll order at Sonic and this is only when on 'road trips'. Here in Santa Fe, we have three Sonic's and I think two DQ's and I never go; we have much better places to eat thankfully!
Don't like Bananas Foster? A photo (not mine):
Edit: In an attempt at being constructive in the Coffee Corner and for those who do like Bananas and like to bake, this is a winner and goes very, very well with coffee:
Ultimate Banana Bread: Cooks Illustrated
MAKES ONE 9-INCH LOAF
Be sure to use very ripe, heavily speckled (or even black) bananas in this recipe. This recipe can be made using 5 thawed frozen bananas; since they release a lot of liquid naturally, they can bypass the microwaving in step 2 and go directly into the fine-mesh strainer. Do not use a thawed frozen banana in step 4; it will be too soft to slice. Instead, simply sprinkle the top of the loaf with sugar. The test kitchen’s preferred loaf pan measures 8½ by 4½ inches; if you use a 9 by 5-inch loaf pan, start checking for doneness five minutes earlier than advised in the recipe. The texture is best when the loaf is eaten fresh, but it can be stored (cool completely first), covered tightly with plastic wrap, for up to 3 days.
1 3/4
cups (8 3/4 ounces) unbleached all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon table salt
6 large very ripe bananas (about 2 1/4 pounds), peeled (see note)
8 tablespoons (1 stick)
unsalted butter, melted and cooled slightly
2 large eggs
3/4 cup (5 1/4 ounces) packed light brown sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/2 cup walnuts, toasted and coarsely chopped (optional)
2 teaspoons granulated sugar
1 teaspoon Allspice
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Spray 8½ by 4½-inch loaf pan with nonstick cooking spray. Whisk flour, baking soda, and salt together in large bowl.
2. Place 5 bananas in microwave-safe bowl; cover with plastic wrap and cut several steam vents in plastic with paring knife. Microwave on high power until bananas are soft and have released liquid, about 5 minutes. Transfer bananas to fine-mesh strainer placed over medium bowl and allow to drain, stirring occasionally, 15 minutes (you should have ½ to ¾ cup liquid).
3. Transfer liquid to medium saucepan and cook over medium-high heat until reduced to ¼ cup, about 5 minutes. Remove pan from heat, stir reduced liquid into bananas, and mash with potato masher until fairly smooth. Whisk in butter, eggs, brown sugar, and vanilla.
4. Pour banana mixture into flour mixture and stir until just combined with some streaks of flour remaining. Gently fold in walnuts, if using. Scrape batter into prepared pan. Slice remaining banana diagonally into ¼-inch-thick slices. Shingle banana slices on top of either side of loaf, leaving 1½-inch-wide space down center to ensure even rise. Sprinkle granulated sugar evenly over loaf.
5. Bake until toothpick inserted in center of loaf comes out clean, 55 to 75 minutes. Cool bread in pan on wire rack 15 minutes, then remove loaf from pan and continue to cool on wire rack. Serve warm or at room temperature.
We once tried making fresh Pineapple ice cream with real pineapple and found out you can't. The pineapple's acidity curdles the cream real fast. So in this case, it is not a negative that they don't use real pineapple here.
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We once tried making fresh Pineapple ice cream with real pineapple and found out you can't. The pineapple's acidity curdles the cream real fast. So in this case, it is not a negative that they don't use real pineapple here.
Well it's pineapple but not fresh (frozen?). Perhaps processed. Hence, I've switched to Banana and depending on the location and age of bananas, the flavor profile can vary. I'm OK with that.
The ice cream is made (Vanilla) so grinding up fresh or frozen pineapple shouldn't have any of the effects you suffered.
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Andrew,
A topic we can all enjoy. Thank you very much. My wife and I are big fans of homemade banana bread. We will try yours for sure.
Peter
Credit goes to Cooks Illustrated (https://www.cooksillustrated.com) (and Cooks Country), never found a bad recipe yet!
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I respect your subjective opinion about fast food desserts. I respect your disapproval of bananas in milkshakes. We don't agree, that's fine. I used to like Sonic's Pineapple Milkshakes but the only one's they make with real, fresh fruit is with Bananas. Further, they use real Ice Cream or so they say and it sure tastes like it. DQ? I don't think so.
FWIW, Milkshakes and rarely, an order of Onion Rings is all I'll order at Sonic and this is only when on 'road trips'. Here in Santa Fe, we have three Sonic's and I think two DQ's and I never go; we have much better places to eat thankfully!
Don't like Bananas Foster? A photo (not mine):
Edit: In an attempt at being constructive in the Coffee Corner and for those who do like Bananas and like to bake, this is a winner and goes very, very well with coffee:
Ultimate Banana Bread: Cooks Illustrated
MAKES ONE 9-INCH LOAF
Be sure to use very ripe, heavily speckled (or even black) bananas in this recipe. This recipe can be made using 5 thawed frozen bananas; since they release a lot of liquid naturally, they can bypass the microwaving in step 2 and go directly into the fine-mesh strainer. Do not use a thawed frozen banana in step 4; it will be too soft to slice. Instead, simply sprinkle the top of the loaf with sugar. The test kitchen’s preferred loaf pan measures 8½ by 4½ inches; if you use a 9 by 5-inch loaf pan, start checking for doneness five minutes earlier than advised in the recipe. The texture is best when the loaf is eaten fresh, but it can be stored (cool completely first), covered tightly with plastic wrap, for up to 3 days.
1 3/4
cups (8 3/4 ounces) unbleached all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon table salt
6 large very ripe bananas (about 2 1/4 pounds), peeled (see note)
8 tablespoons (1 stick)
unsalted butter, melted and cooled slightly
2 large eggs
3/4 cup (5 1/4 ounces) packed light brown sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1/2 cup walnuts, toasted and coarsely chopped (optional)
2 teaspoons granulated sugar
1 teaspoon Allspice
INSTRUCTIONS
1. Adjust oven rack to middle position and heat oven to 350 degrees. Spray 8½ by 4½-inch loaf pan with nonstick cooking spray. Whisk flour, baking soda, and salt together in large bowl.
2. Place 5 bananas in microwave-safe bowl; cover with plastic wrap and cut several steam vents in plastic with paring knife. Microwave on high power until bananas are soft and have released liquid, about 5 minutes. Transfer bananas to fine-mesh strainer placed over medium bowl and allow to drain, stirring occasionally, 15 minutes (you should have ½ to ¾ cup liquid).
3. Transfer liquid to medium saucepan and cook over medium-high heat until reduced to ¼ cup, about 5 minutes. Remove pan from heat, stir reduced liquid into bananas, and mash with potato masher until fairly smooth. Whisk in butter, eggs, brown sugar, and vanilla.
4. Pour banana mixture into flour mixture and stir until just combined with some streaks of flour remaining. Gently fold in walnuts, if using. Scrape batter into prepared pan. Slice remaining banana diagonally into ¼-inch-thick slices. Shingle banana slices on top of either side of loaf, leaving 1½-inch-wide space down center to ensure even rise. Sprinkle granulated sugar evenly over loaf.
5. Bake until toothpick inserted in center of loaf comes out clean, 55 to 75 minutes. Cool bread in pan on wire rack 15 minutes, then remove loaf from pan and continue to cool on wire rack. Serve warm or at room temperature.
You know I'm just goofing on you about your desert choices, right? :)
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You know I'm just goofing on you about your desert choices, right? :)
Yeah, but it gave me an excuse to provide a recipe and attempt to post a few items in the Coffee Corner a topic that's political or controversial. At least as yet. :)
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As long as we are off topic on deserts, nothing can beat Rose Berenbaum Levy's Triple Chocolate Cake. I made this three times for special occasions and to me it is the apex of what a cake should taste like. Here (http://www.theauberginechef.com/2012/02/episode-89-triple-chocolate-cake/) is a nice blog post with a video and the recipe. It's complicated getting the praline sheets right but when you have assembled this it looks fabulous. Best to do it over two days.
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Well it's pineapple but not fresh (frozen?). Perhaps processed. Hence, I've switched to Banana and depending on the location and age of bananas, the flavor profile can vary. I'm OK with that.
The ice cream is made (Vanilla) so grinding up fresh or frozen pineapple shouldn't have any of the effects you suffered.
I do like a good banana milkshake, banana bread though, I just never got into it. I think it is that the banana is cooked and tastes kind of different.
But anyway, I would love to be able to try a real Gros Michel banana, which is supposedly much better then the current Cavendish variety.
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You guys have no hope.
Cholesterol is gonna claim you before you realise. Take your fruit straight; avoid the ones with loads of sugar; leave ice cream in the shop and have the coffee decaffed. I know, I know, you have to have been clobbered before you really believe it.
But at least I'll know that I tried.
:-(
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You guys have no hope.
Cholesterol is gonna claim you before you realise. Take your fruit straight; avoid the ones with loads of sugar; leave ice cream in the shop and have the coffee decaffed. I know, I know, you have to have been clobbered before you really believe it.
But at least I'll know that I tried.
:-(
FWIW, I don't drink coffee, and one of my favorite desserts are chocolate "brownies" in which the "cake" is made from dates and walnuts (with a few TBSP of unsweetened cocoa) ground into a "dough" then refrigerated instead of baked. You can make an awesome frosting out of agave nectar, coconut oil and a little more cocoa.
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You guys have no hope.
Cholesterol is gonna claim you before you realise. Take your fruit straight; avoid the ones with loads of sugar; leave ice cream in the shop and have the coffee decaffed. I know, I know, you have to have been clobbered before you really believe it.
But at least I'll know that I tried.
:-(
Not me, my cholesterol has always been at the low end of normal and HDL/LDL ratio is really good. :-)
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FWIW, I don't drink coffee, and one of my favorite desserts are chocolate "brownies" in which the "cake" is made from dates and walnuts (with a few TBSP of unsweetened cocoa) ground into a "dough" then refrigerated instead of baked. You can make an awesome frosting out of agave nectar, coconut oil and a little more cocoa.
Speaking of health, I saw this article last month.
Coconut oil isn't healthy. It's never been healthy. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/16/coconut-oil-isnt-healthy-its-never-been-healthy/402719001/)
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You guys have no hope.
Cholesterol is gonna claim you before you realise.
I'm 14% body fat. Just had blood work down two weeks ago: Cholesterol is 168, LDL 91, Triglyceride 139. I average 5.9 miles a day according to Apple's Heath app. Thanks for your concern but I'm far more worried about the piss-poor drivers in NM taking my life.
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To get back the the original topic:
Every older generation goes through this nonsense of despairing of the younger generation. As the young would tell you, just chill. As an older generation member I would tell you that we are arrogant, complacent, oblivious and thus incompetent to judge them. They'll do fine and rise to challenge of the future.
I've raised (and am currently raising) two fine boys. The older is 28 and thus qualifies to be the much maligned millennial. He grew up during the digital revolution and it was a constant fight to limit his screen time. I took him hiking, bicycling and sailing, however, and he has grown up to love those activities. We sailed together up the Inside Passage to Canada when he graduated college and then he did a solo cross-country bicycle from San Diego to St Augustine. He's gainfully employed in a tech job working with others who share his passions. He has a smart and beautiful girlfriend and I couldn't be more proud of him.
Had smartphones existed in the early 2000's he probably would have been one of those in the cars glued to their screens but he's always had jobs, and been successful in them, including in the food service industry. You can't predict success based on a simple premise.
Allan
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The most physically demanding summer job I had when I was a student was scooping ice cream in the kiddieland section of an amusement park. You're on your feet the whole time, when there is a rush on you cannot take a break, and you have to be nice to some truly obnoxious people.
A friend of mine was a store manager in a chain of wine stores for while. He said his worst employees were the young ones, he could not rely on them to show up for their shifts nor even to call to let him know when they weren't coming. But the starting level jobs at his store only paid minimum wage. Funny how people swear up and down about supply and demand, yet when they can't find employees to fill jobs at the minimum wage, it never occurs to them to up the ante. Seems like a peculiar kind of economic blind spot.
The lady who ran that ice cream concession stand at the amusement park complained bitterly every chance she got about how impossible it was to make any money, and yet, every summer for years, she bid and won the right to run that concession (it was a summer only amusement park).
So I'm a bit biased. When I hear that kids today don't want lousy jobs at lousy pay, I can't help but think, good on them.
As for the ones with their faces glued to their mobiles' screen, that is a mystery to me. I am finding the interweb less and less interesting as time goes on, and it is starting to remind of network commercial TV more and more. At the moment, except for reading novels, I am most interested in long-form podcasts, where ideas can be fleshed out more completely. Sometimes forums such as this one are interesting, but I'm finding that they are tending toward the short quick-hit sound bite form more and more, without much new info or interesting observation.
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Speaking of health, I saw this article last month.
Coconut oil isn't healthy. It's never been healthy. (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/16/coconut-oil-isnt-healthy-its-never-been-healthy/402719001/)
It's *frosting.* Of course it's not healthy ;)
Besides, there's only 2 tablespoons of the stuff in the whole pan, and it takes good week to eat.
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.... and it takes good week to eat.
Maybe for you! ;D
My motto: there's always room for desert.
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I'm 14% body fat. Just had blood work down two weeks ago: Cholesterol is 168, LDL 91, Triglyceride 139. I average 5.9 miles a day according to Apple's Heath app. Thanks for your concern but I'm far more worried about the piss-poor drivers in NM taking my life.
As I've observed before, overall mortality remains 100%. As to why you'd want to spoil such time as you have left by eating bananas, the most revolting fruit known to man, I'm at a complete loss ;)
Jeremy
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I assume you chose the French version to be topical?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-10/young-french-mother-dies-after-ambulance-call-mocked/9745956
As to bananas, perhaps they're crap over in Blighty, but they're fantastic in the antipodes. I shudder at the thought of a banana grown over there, TBH.
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I assume you chose the French version to be topical?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-10/young-french-mother-dies-after-ambulance-call-mocked/9745956
As to bananas, perhaps they're crap over in Blighty, but they're fantastic in the antipodes. I shudder at the thought of a banana grown over there, TBH.
No, just because the sentiment seemed very French. I've had this image stashed away for some years.
I think the bananas we get over here are mostly grown in the Caribbean.
Jeremy
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..l I'm far more worried about the piss-poor drivers in NM taking my life.
Awww, what a racist thing to say ;)
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Awww, what a racist thing to say ;)
You don't seem to understand what that means. There's nothing at all racist about it (what's kind of racist is perhaps considering my state, part of the US has 'Mexico' in the name implies my factual comments are racist).
We have less than 2 million residents here. Yet the facts as we are rated (7th):
#7 – New Mexico
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Best Ranking: Fatality Rate – 28th
Worst Ranking: Careless Driving – 3rd
With a total of 61 pedestrians and pedalcyclists killed by motorists in 2015 alone, New Mexico has far too many careless drivers — the third most in the country!
“‘Pedestrian Hit by a Car’ is not an uncommon headline in New Mexico news.” — Davis Kelin Injury Law Firm
Fortunately, New Mexico leaders have taken this public safety concern seriously by passing a “Careless Driver” law that has motorists facing up to 90 days of jail time as determined by a judge in court.
In addition, The University of New Mexico’s CIPRE and the NMDOT have teamed up to launch a Pedestrian and Bicycle Safety Initiative Project to educate citizens and make roads much safer for the community.
After three consecutive years on this Worst Driver list, hopefully, New Mexico citizens will save lives by actually watching the road while driving.
Despite the smiley, I'm sorry my accurate comments about a state I've lived in for 24 years ruins your day. Oh and this back: :P
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The question, Andrew, is why is NM topping the worst drivers list? Try answering that without being “racist.” I put that in quotation marks as I actually do not consider stating facts as being racist.
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The question, Andrew, is why is NM topping the worst drivers list? Try answering that without being “racist.” I put that in quotation marks as I actually do not consider stating facts as being racist.
I cannot answer rhetorical questions! I can and did provide factual data to justify my fears!
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Peyote.
Rob
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Maybe not, Rob. New Mexico has a lot of highway signs that just say: "Don't drink and drive." That seems to be their solution to the drunken driving problem. How can they miss?
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I cannot answer rhetorical questions! I can and did provide factual data to justify my fears!
The road fatality data is HERE (http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/state-by-state-overview). Unfortunately, it's not sorted by which state is most "dangerous" to drive in but rather alphabetically. This two year old (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/most-dangerous-states-to-drive_us_5736185de4b060aa781a3eec) ranking lists the top ten most dangerous states to drive in. New Mexico is #4 on the list (be very careful Andrew).
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Maybe not, Rob. New Mexico has a lot of highway signs that just say: "Don't drink and drive." That seems to be their solution to the drunken driving problem.
What you assume again (“seems to be their(only) solution”) is another assumption and a comment not to be taken seriously nor does it change my facts provided illustrating one of the most, if not the most dangerous daily activities I and others face!
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If you want real road danger, shift to Thailand and get a scooter.
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If you want real road danger, shift to Thailand and get a scooter.
Absolutely, Grub. I rode the streets of Ubon for many months in the middle sixties on my 50cc Suzuki. Had a friend who did a head-on into a bus on his Honda. Happily he was wearing his helmet and survived.
But as I recall it's just as hairy in a taxi, or in a samblao. สามล้อ (usually written as "samlor," but what I always heard up country was "samblao.")
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Maybe not, Rob. New Mexico has a lot of highway signs that just say: "Don't drink and drive." That seems to be their solution to the drunken driving problem. How can they miss?
And to show how effective it is, there's a roadside shrine about every half mile for somebody who didn't or couldn't read the signs.
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... or couldn't read the signs.
That would do it. Driving here in Miami is crazy. I heard an explanation as to why, but I do not want to repeat it. It is so easy to get called a racist these days ;)
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Here's an example.
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The Blagojevic hypocrisy hit parade keeps on giving:It is so easy to get called a racist these days ;)
Then stop calling others racists bud:
Awww, what a racist thing to say
The question, Andrew, is why is NM topping the worst drivers list? Try answering that without being “racist.” I put that in quotation marks as I actually do not consider stating facts as being racist.
Busted again!
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And to show how effective it is, there's a roadside shrine about every half mile for somebody who didn't or couldn't read the signs.
A statement that's wrong (again).
IF you wish to be taken more seriously, versus when you wish to your writings to be considered 'humorous" (everyone's a comedian and photographer), consider using these for the latter:
:) ;) :D ;D 8) ::) etc. That's why there are here, so readers can separate presumed comedy/sarcasm from fake news, from posts where you intend to have your text taken seriously.
Facts for those who have any interest in accuracy about so called 'roadside shrines'. They are called Descansos; Roadside Memorials that can be found in New Mexico, and no, not at every half mile and having nothing to do with reading.
Here's a web site of PHOTOGRAPHS (you can critique them if desired), showing examples and you'll find, if you pay attention, they were captured inside and outside NM:
DESCANSOS :
ROADSIDE MEMORIALS
ON THE AMERICAN HIGHWAY
http://webpages.charter.net/dnance/descansos/ (http://webpages.charter.net/dnance/descansos/)
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...They are called Descansos...
Q.E.D.
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Q.E.D.
As the Chinese proverb says: "The first step towards genius is calling things by their proper name"
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Meanwhile, back to the misstatements from our (for some, misfortunate) current leader:
White House backs away from Trump claim Saudi Arabia will boost oil production:
A White House statement issued Saturday night said Saudi Arabia maintains 2 million barrels per day of spare capacity, but didn't pledge to increase production by that amount.
Trump said Saturday that he had received assurances from King Salman bin Adulaziz Al Saud that the kingdom will increase oil production, "maybe up to 2,000,000 barrels"
maybe up to 2,000 barrels, or 20 or.... :-\
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White House backs away from Trump claim Saudi Arabia will boost oil production:
A White House statement issued Saturday night said Saudi Arabia maintains 2 million barrels per day of spare capacity, but didn't pledge to increase production by that amount.
Trump said Saturday that he had received assurances from King Salman bin Adulaziz Al Saud that the kingdom will increase oil production, "maybe up to 2,000,000 barrels"
maybe up to 2,000 barrels, or 20 or.... :-\
And to think that we are turning our back on all that wonderful Iranian crude oil!!
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The Blagojevic hypocrisy hit parade keeps on giving:Then stop calling others racists bud:
Andrew, for God's sake grow a sense of humour.
Jeremy
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Andrew, for God's sake grow a sense of humour.
Jeremy
I see nothing funny/humorous about the two illustrated posts of hypocrisy or those suggestions of racism! The latter, especially considering the past and recent history of the country I happen live in.
[EDIT: offensive photograph removed]
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If you want real road danger, shift to Thailand and get a scooter.
Or India, particularly if you're female. One of the things there that upset my wife was the frequent site of a family - man, woman, small child (or two) - on a scooter with, nearly always, only the man (who was driving, of course) with a crash helmet.
Jeremy
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A statement that's wrong (again).
IF you wish to be taken more seriously, versus when you wish to your writings to be considered 'humorous" (everyone's a comedian and photographer), consider using these for the latter:
:) ;) :D ;D 8) ::) etc. That's why there are here, so readers can separate presumed comedy/sarcasm from fake news, from posts where you intend to have your text taken seriously.
Facts for those who have any interest in accuracy about so called 'roadside shrines'. They are called Descansos; Roadside Memorials that can be found in New Mexico, and no, not at every half mile and having nothing to do with reading.
Here's a web site of PHOTOGRAPHS (you can critique them if desired), showing examples and you'll find, if you pay attention, they were captured inside and outside NM:
DESCANSOS :
ROADSIDE MEMORIALS
ON THE AMERICAN HIGHWAY
http://webpages.charter.net/dnance/descansos/ (http://webpages.charter.net/dnance/descansos/)
Golly, Andrew, do you really mean to say that there are roadside shrines outside New Mexico? Whoda thunk it? And I'm certainly happy to know that in New Mexico you guys call them descansos. It's really important to know that. It helps to explain a lot. I don't think we called them that in Colorado. I think we called them "roadside shrines." Not sure yet what they call them in Florida. Probably "roadside shrines." But maybe not in Miami.
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I donno, Andrew “Color Management for Photographers" sounds kind or racist to me.
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I see nothing funny/humorous about the two illustrated posts of hypocrisy or those suggestions of racism! The latter, especially considering the past and recent history of the country I happen live in.
Maybe you should consider moving to New Zealand or someplace like that if you're worried about the past and recent history of your country.
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Golly, Andrew, do you really mean to say that there are roadside shrines outside New Mexico?
Golly RLS, did you read what I wrote before asking?
Whoda thunk it?
Who's isn't thinking (before posting) is the question you should ask yourself.
And I'm certainly happy to know that in New Mexico you guys call them descansos
Then I'm happy you're happy learning something new.
It's really important to know that.
It is, if you strive to call things by their proper names.
I don't think we called them that in Colorado.
Correction:
I don't think we called them that in Colorado.
Either again, you failed to read the web page with the photo's I provided or you believe Colorado isn't in the southwest:
THE CUSTOM of marking the site of a death on the highway has deep roots in the Hispanic culture of the Southwest, where these memorials are often referred to as Descansos ("resting places").
Or can you take the time to look up the language before posting:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/descanso (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/descanso)
From Spanish descanso (“place of rest, as of a funeral procession”)
Noun[edit]
descanso (plural descansos)
A cross placed at the site of a violent, unexpected death, in memoriam.
The highways of the USA are littered with descansos, silent reminders of automobile accidents.
I think we called them "roadside shrines."
You think you call them roadside shrines. You don't think for 'we'.
Not sure yet what they call them in Florida.
If you knew to research before posting, or read what I've provided, then you'd know.
Much like the current US leader, some have expressed very little effort to learn much, have shown a lack of intellectual curiosity. :'(
"To know that we know what we know, and to know that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge."-Nicolaus Copernicus
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Maybe you should consider moving to New Zealand or someplace like that if you're worried about the past and recent history of your country.
On my bucket list to visit. You been there?
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I donno, Andrew “Color Management for Photographers" sounds kind or racist to me.
Doesn't surprise me at all. Perhaps English is your 2nd language or you've never looked up the meaning of those four words between the quotes above. And more importantly, the fifth: racist. The current US leader doesn't know what that means either, based on a lot of his recorded statements on that subject.
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On occasions, rather too often, I find moderating threads here is not dissimilar to supervising a kindergarten playground.
Grow up, the lot of you.
Andrew, that photograph was utterly unacceptable. Take a holiday.
Jeremy