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The Art of Photography => Street Showcase => Topic started by: Ivo_B on June 20, 2018, 11:35:27 am

Title: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Ivo_B on June 20, 2018, 11:35:27 am
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7393/10965260886_d68666fcf6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hGXQ3b)Paris (https://flic.kr/p/hGXQ3b) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5514/10965177015_831fb602d2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hGXp78)Paris (https://flic.kr/p/hGXp78) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/10965424273_2f00b4ca90_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hGYEBc)Paris (https://flic.kr/p/hGYEBc) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr


(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7351/10965420873_d84c2ef129_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/hGYDAz)Paris (https://flic.kr/p/hGYDAz) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr


Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 20, 2018, 12:26:08 pm
These are very nice, Ivo. I hope Russ will approve them as "real street" as well ;)
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: RSL on June 20, 2018, 01:13:52 pm
Well, there's a street in every one of these, so how could I not?
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: JNB_Rare on June 20, 2018, 01:16:19 pm
These are very nice, Ivo.

+1
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on June 21, 2018, 01:14:33 am
Really like these.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Ivophoto on June 21, 2018, 05:02:39 am
Thanks all.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: fredjeang2 on June 21, 2018, 07:24:26 am
One of the things I enjoy most about these photos is a certain spacial wisdom, where spots/framing were discerningly choosen (no matter if willfully or not).

I find that in our times, it is crucial that we be very carefull of the surrowdings in the sense that cities are packed with unalluring elements whose monstrousness are killing the décor's magic.

Plastic scooters parked everywhere. Modern cars and buses horribly unaesthetic and boring; signs and advertising invading backgrounds, cold deshumanised banks glass facades with cheap logos replacing historical districts storefronts, building repairs hidden with horrible stockades with phone companies canvas, wooden windows replaced by aluminium/Climalit, pavements removed for asphalt, beautifull vintage cafés chairs and tables substituted by plastic, parks invaded by colourfull infant schools, plastic rubbish bins military green painted and recycling tanks every hundred meters, without talking about unapealing fashion (unispiring clothing with Nike logos), the list is long.
The urban ugliness with which we have to deal is shocking compared to our elders.

I did past experiment with friends to replace many great street masters photos with today's surroundings (in photoshop) and it drastically deteriorated the all atmosphere, very very clearly.
The golden age for street aesthetism took place till the end of the 70's because it helped photography instead of going against.
In the politicaly corrected nowdays, finding the right spots is a real challenge.

In those photos, at least, the photographer took care of what was going to appear in the frame.
#2 would have been much better without the recycling tank, but it's very hard no to get those
Horrors somewhere in the frames.

I would say that the first task of a comtemporary street photographer is scouting.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Ivophoto on June 21, 2018, 07:59:43 am
Thanks for your kind words, Jean. And also thanks to recognize the effort put in the making of them.

You touched a very important point in your explanation: the choice to seek timeliness in pictures.
It is the choice to choose for it, or deliberately not choose for it that changed my view on the world.

I can not elaborate further at this moment (busy), but I’m thrilled to start a separate topic on this subject later today.

Kind regards.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: RSL on June 21, 2018, 09:35:07 am
Ivo, I've been pulling your leg a lot. Can't resist. You make it so easy. But I have to tell you that these really are fine street shots, especially the first and the last two. They transmit significance beyond "I was there," which is one of the most important things about good street.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Rayyan on June 27, 2018, 04:42:15 am

Ivo, good photographs.
I find the 3rd one a bit sad and makes me reflect. But that is what it should be about. Emotion!

Best.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Ivophoto on June 27, 2018, 05:33:34 am
Ivo, good photographs.
I find the 3rd one a bit sad and makes me reflect. But that is what it should be about. Emotion!

Best.

Thanks Fursan.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Rob C on June 27, 2018, 07:11:23 am
One of the things I enjoy most about these photos is a certain spacial wisdom, where spots/framing were discerningly choosen (no matter if willfully or not).

I find that in our times, it is crucial that we be very carefull of the surrowdings in the sense that cities are packed with unalluring elements whose monstrousness are killing the décor's magic.

Plastic scooters parked everywhere. Modern cars and buses horribly unaesthetic and boring; signs and advertising invading backgrounds, cold deshumanised banks glass facades with cheap logos replacing historical districts storefronts, building repairs hidden with horrible stockades with phone companies canvas, wooden windows replaced by aluminium/Climalit, pavements removed for asphalt, beautifull vintage cafés chairs and tables substituted by plastic, parks invaded by colourfull infant schools, plastic rubbish bins military green painted and recycling tanks every hundred meters, without talking about unapealing fashion (unispiring clothing with Nike logos), the list is long.
The urban ugliness with which we have to deal is shocking compared to our elders.

I did past experiment with friends to replace many great street masters photos with today's surroundings (in photoshop) and it drastically deteriorated the all atmosphere, very very clearly.
The golden age for street aesthetism took place till the end of the 70's because it helped photography instead of going against.
In the politicaly corrected nowdays, finding the right spots is a real challenge.

In those photos, at least, the photographer took care of what was going to appear in the frame.
#2 would have been much better without the recycling tank, but it's very hard no to get those
Horrors somewhere in the frames.

I would say that the first task of a comtemporary street photographer is scouting.



This is all true, Fred, but if that is a problem it is because (regarding photography) we might be trying to ape the people who began it all.

When you look at the work of contemporary Japanese shooters, you see that their work works because of the modern architecture and confusion. Klein took advantage of that in his own Times Square photographs in colour. Neon has its values, too.

Rob
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: BobDavid on June 29, 2018, 06:20:58 pm
They're all tasty. I think they'd make nice prints.
Title: Re: Every cloud has a silver lining in Paris
Post by: Ivo_B on June 30, 2018, 01:29:08 am
They're all tasty. I think they'd make nice prints.

Thanks Bob.

In the darkroom, I would be able to get great print like this. On the inkjet, I'm still struggling to get the transition from black to almost black as it should be...