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Equipment & Techniques => Mirrorless Cameras => Topic started by: DP on March 04, 2018, 05:25:31 pm

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Post by: DP on March 04, 2018, 05:25:31 pm
as I do not want to initiate a discussion with other Fuji owners (that was not the point) & co-owner of the site & forum wants the topic to be unlocked - the review is removed...
Title: Re: Fuji X-H1 / FujiFilm X-H1 review - mostly concentrating on various deficiencies
Post by: Kevin Raber on March 04, 2018, 05:49:16 pm
Interesting . . I'm expecting a review production unit this week.  I'm just finishing the Sony a7III review and should have it up by tomorrow.  After seeing the X-H1 in LA I thought it looked pretty cool but the SDony a7III performance blew the doors off of it.  There's a lot to like about the Fuji and I'll be doing some long haul tests over the next several weeks including a trip to Portugal.  I'll see how it does, but your points sound valid.
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Post by: Rand47 on March 05, 2018, 03:04:24 pm
as I do not want to initiate a discussion  . . .   - the review is removed...

Yeah, that's the bummer about a discussion forum, ain't it?  Darn people who like to "discuss" get in the way of a nice one-sided monologue.

fo·rum..  [ˈfôrəm]
NOUN
1.a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged:


Rand
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Post by: DP on March 05, 2018, 03:14:09 pm
Yeah, that's the bummer about a discussion forum, ain't it?  Darn people who like to "discuss" get in the way of a nice one-sided monologue.

Rand

you are free to open a new topic and discuss there as much as you wish - but you can't force me to take part in that and neither it comes to my mind to force my way into any locked topic ... there was/is no bummer, option to lock is available for a topic starter to use - that's it... as mr. Sanderson has a stake in the business that owns the site he naturally can set the rules overriding the wishes of any OP - hence the topic is unlocked, so fire away :)
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Post by: armand on March 05, 2018, 03:27:44 pm
Food for though for you: nobody owns the absolute truth and there are more ways than one to skin a cat.
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Post by: Alan Smallbone on March 05, 2018, 03:31:22 pm
No one is forcing you DP to take part in anything. I find it interesting that someone who is as opinionated as you will not be willing to discuss anything. But then you must have something to hide, no real name used, short time poster. Some points you had, did have some validity and others were a little off in my opinion but we are after all discussing opinions.

Alan
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Post by: DP on March 05, 2018, 03:41:13 pm
I find it interesting that someone who is as opinionated as you will not be willing to discuss anything.

and the next quote from you will illustrate exactly why I did not wish to have a discussion in "my" topic w/ review which was specifically aimed at deficiencies...

But then you must have something to hide, no real name used, short time poster.

here we go  ;D  ... and, yes sir, I do beat my wife daily

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Post by: DP on March 05, 2018, 03:44:05 pm
Food for though for you: nobody owns the absolute truth and there are more ways than one to skin a cat.

absolutely, but I will not break through your locked door to interfere w/ your way of skinning a cat - now if you leave your door open ... a food for thought for you.
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Post by: john beardsworth on March 05, 2018, 03:44:59 pm
You can't play the victim here, "DP". This is a discussion forum and while it often makes sense for an OP to lock a thread, you were abusing it for your contentious and factually-incorrect review - if one can call it that when its author hides behind anonymity!

So I was one of those who asked for your so-called review to be unlocked.



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Post by: DP on March 05, 2018, 03:52:42 pm
So I was one of those who asked for your so-called review to be unlocked.

For the sake of brevity - see my replies to Alan Smallbone & Armand.
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Post by: armand on March 05, 2018, 03:59:31 pm
absolutely, but I will not break through your locked door to interfere w/ your way of skinning a cat - now if you leave your door open ... a food for thought for you.

A forum is similar to a public space so no doors here, if you post here you are willing to discuss. If on the other hand you would post the same thing on your website, then yes, you can keep the door locked.

The point of the previous reply was that you might be incorrect in your assessment and by participating in a discussion those points that you make can stand true or not.

Just posting some perceived negatives and not be willing to justify it doesn't hold much water. Now I have no investment in Fuji and at the end of the day I could care less if you don't like it but I like fairness. In most of your post you are very vocal/negative and provocative about it (or about Nikon) but not Sony or m43  despite all of them having strong points and not so strong points, some of the not so strong points being common yet you only see them when you see fit.
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Post by: john beardsworth on March 05, 2018, 04:12:33 pm
For the sake of brevity - see my replies to Alan Smallbone & Armand.

Yeah, your response to their comments was pretty lame. Seriously, you were abusing the system, don't try to pass the buck.
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Post by: Alan Smallbone on March 05, 2018, 05:11:07 pm
and the next quote from you will illustrate exactly why I did not wish to have a discussion in "my" topic w/ review which was specifically aimed at deficiencies...

here we go  ;D  ... and, yes sir, I do beat my wife daily

I did not question your personal life nor do I care about it, but you supposedly posted a review, you want everyone to accept your opinions but unwilling to listen or participate in discussion and as John mention your decidedly biased points. But then when you said you did not want to participate but here you are trolling.  Make up your mind.

Alan
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Post by: LesPalenik on March 06, 2018, 04:50:34 am
It's hard to show respect for a poster who can't come up with more than three dots.
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Post by: john beardsworth on March 06, 2018, 06:02:52 am
Kevin's reply quoted the original subject, and the post itself was quite lengthy.
Title: Re: Fuji X-H1 / FujiFilm X-H1 review - mostly concentrating on various deficiencies
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on March 06, 2018, 06:21:28 am
Interesting . . I'm expecting a review production unit this week.  I'm just finishing the Sony a7III review and should have it up by tomorrow.  After seeing the X-H1 in LA I thought it looked pretty cool but the SDony a7III performance blew the doors off of it.  There's a lot to like about the Fuji and I'll be doing some long haul tests over the next several weeks including a trip to Portugal.  I'll see how it does, but your points sound valid.

Not sure what this topic was all about. What caught my attention was your mention that you are coming to Portugal, my home country. If I may ask, what parts are you planning to visit?
Regards.
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Post by: Kevin Raber on March 06, 2018, 07:18:32 am
Paul, I'm coming to Lisbon.  I'll PM you.
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Post by: rick_k on March 09, 2018, 11:13:59 am
Well... wasn't this a wonderful discussion of the merits of the X-H1. We all learned so much. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: Kirk_C on March 18, 2018, 08:41:23 pm
Well... wasn't this a wonderful discussion of the merits of the X-H1. We all learned so much. Thanks for sharing.


Damn I missed all the drama  :o
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Post by: armand on March 18, 2018, 09:58:35 pm


Damn I missed all the drama  :o

Don’t worry, I’m sure you will find some in the coffee corner should your heart desire it.
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Post by: Kirk_C on March 19, 2018, 11:13:24 pm
Don’t worry, I’m sure you will find some in the coffee corner should your heart desire it.

Hah! I've never even click on the coffee corner. Now you've convinced me that's been a wise decision and I think I'll stick with it.