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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: davidgp on July 19, 2017, 06:20:15 am
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Hi,
New version of Lightroom, 2015.12 (they jumped version .11 so Camera RAW and Lightroom have the same end number). New camera support and bugfixes only... in theory it inclused target adjusment fix (commented in this forum), but I have not tested it (I will wait for more adventured people... I'm still at .8 or .9)
More details: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2017/07/lightroom-cc-2015-12-now-available.html
Regards,
David
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Thanks for the notice, David.
Fixing the TAT would be very welcome! I'll update this evening.
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The other big problem it resolves is in Map, eliminating the "Map Offline" message caused by Google.
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Ok, I got a bit wrong the number thing, for clarification:
What happened to 2015.11 / 6.11?
You’re not missing anything… there wasn’t a 2015.11 / 6.11 release. Lightroom uses the Camera Raw engine, so the version numbering is closely tied. The next Camera Raw release would have been 9.11, but out of respect for the tragic events that unfolded on that date, Adobe decided to skip that version number.
Source: https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-cc-2015-12-6-12/
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I look forward to confirmation the TAT bug has been fixed. I'll wait a few days before updating though to see what new bugs they may have introduced.
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I look forward to confirmation the TAT bug has been fixed. I'll wait a few days before updating though to see what new bugs they may have introduced.
Ditto ... While I welcome any and all updates, it's always best to allow the pay-to-play beta testers go over the update first.
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Hi,
New version of Lightroom, 2015.12 (they jumped version .11 so Camera RAW and Lightroom have the same end number).
No, it clearly states under the update notice for Camera RAW 9.12:
What happened to Camera Raw 9.11:
We skipped version 9.11 due to unfortunate events that happened on that day.
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Another change is handy for CC users who share photos/shoots via LrMobile.
I wrote up the change here (http://lightroomsolutions.com/sign-into-adobe-with-google-or-facebook/) but the big deal was that if you ever tried sharing photos from https://lightroom.adobe.com/, you could only get feedback if the other person had an Adobe account. Now people can sign in using their Facebook or Google IDs, which are obviously much more convenient. It's a small change but it makes it so much easier to use LrMobile for a light client proofing workflow.
John
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No, it clearly states under the update notice for Camera RAW 9.12:
What happened to Camera Raw 9.11:
We skipped version 9.11 due to unfortunate events that happened on that day.
Yes, as I said before, I commented it wrong... i read to quickly that part and I missed that key point
http://dgpfotografia.com
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Just did a quick test, the TAT tool seems to be functioning normally now.
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Any problems to report please...
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Just did a quick test, the TAT tool seems to be functioning normally now.
And the map module seems back to normal.
Is it my imagination, or is the develop module a bit quicker, more responsive, snappier?
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Mike, my TAT tool works as it should now as well.
Develop Module snappiness is something I can't tell as I just updated to a 27" iMac that's loaded and my 6 year old 21.5" iMac sits on a workbench.
I did notice from a performance perspective though that even with the fastest CPU, 40 GB RAM, an SSD and the biggest video card I can still bring the Develop Module to a crawl with a LOT of brushing adjustments.
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Mike, my TAT tool works as it should now as well.
Develop Module snappiness is something I can't tell as I just updated to a 27" iMac that's loaded and my 6 year old 21.5" iMac sits on a workbench.
I did notice from a performance perspective though that even with the fastest CPU, 40 GB RAM, an SSD and the biggest video card I can still bring the Develop Module to a crawl with a LOT of brushing adjustments.
LR is finally returning to normal.
Interesting, what you mention about your iMac and the performance when using the brush adjustments a great deal. I've heard Jeff make mention of something like that in one of the tutorials. So even your very powerful iMac can be affected. Interesting.
My iMac is ancient by computer standards, a mid 2011 27" i3, but I won't upgrade since it still handles my files fairly well. Only time the spinning beach ball rotates seemingly forever is when I start LR and switch to the develop module for the first time. Seems as if the software is trying to understand what the heck the operator wants! All subsequent module switches are (relatively) quick.
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And the map module seems back to normal.
Is it my imagination, or is the develop module a bit quicker, more responsive, snappier?
I did wonder that myself, not done a lot of editing since updating LR but it did seem a bit snappier with a few I've done.
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I was "stuck" in Lr CC 2015.9 due to all these bugs of the last time, but now I decided it was time to upgrade. I think that it works much better and even some problems with sliders, anchors, etc are fixed! Very happy!
Mac Pro Mid 2012, 3.2 GHz, Quad Core, El Capitan 10.11.6
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Just upgraded yesterday and worked on a few images. All seem well with no issues.
I had expected Adobe to have rolled out a few new features by now. Rather disappointing. I would like to see their feature road map,
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I had expected Adobe to have rolled out a few new features by now. Rather disappointing. I would like to see their feature road map,
I think they are still focusing on LR Mobile because that's where they added some new features, rather good actually.
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Maybe you just haven't noticed the new features they added?
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John, it's hard to see any new "features" in the latest release...
https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2017/07/lightroom-cc-2015-12-now-available.html
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Is it my imagination, or is the develop module a bit quicker, more responsive, snappier?
I think it's your imagination ... seems pretty much the same for me.
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Maybe you just haven't noticed the new features they added?
Such as? (outside of LR Mobile)
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Such as? (outside of LR Mobile)
Which is perhaps a slightly artificial distinction.... The original comment was broader than a single bugfix/support release, so the most recent one would be the reference view. Going back - guided upright, dehaze, boundary warp, more local adjustments. See https://www.adobe.com/uk/products/photoshop-lightroom/features.html
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Is it my imagination, or is the develop module a bit quicker, more responsive, snappier?
I dunno.. You might be on to something there... I was doing a ton of spot removals on an image, and it didn't slow down to a crawl as usual. As a matter of fact, it really didn't slow down at all the whole time - at least not noticeably. I had the distinct feeling I was in The Twilight Zone. :D Other things as well also seemed a bit snappier and responsive, as you say.
Maybe they cleaned up some code or something.
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Just an issue I discovered with LR CC2015.12 - GPU does not work with my graphics card (old AMD Radeon HD6850) any more. It is not a latest generation card, so I'm not complaining, even if it exceeds the minimum requirements according to Adobe. The odd thing is that it works perfectly fine with ACR 9.12 and any other Adobe CC application
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If it's within specs, try updating the driver and if that doesn't work you should report it to Adobe. They either need to change their specs or check why it isn't working.
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I guess it is a driver issue. Unfortunately AMD is not updating the driver for this graphics card anymore, so maybe it's time to update it.
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I dunno.. You might be on to something there... I was doing a ton of spot removals on an image, and it didn't slow down to a crawl as usual. As a matter of fact, it really didn't slow down at all the whole time - at least not noticeably. I had the distinct feeling I was in The Twilight Zone. :D Other things as well also seemed a bit snappier and responsive, as you say.
Maybe they cleaned up some code or something.
Did some testing. I don't see any changes. A file that has no adjustments, spot removal pretty snappy, no real delays. Reset the file, then made a slight adjustment to the angle, made some pretty dramatic changes to the highlights and shadows. Spot removal definitely laggier. I've found the more adjustments and local adjustments to file the laggier the spotting becomes. I tend to remove spots as a last step or close to the end, no point if I'm not going to offer the image or print it. On any image that I've done extensive work to, I make a virtual copy, reset it, spot it, then sync the spots back over to the final file. A couple of extra steps but very responsive, and saves some frustration.
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I can't speak for Wayne's system/s but on my 2011 iMac the first switch from the Library to the Develop module is noticeably faster. A lot faster. The response to the adjustment sliders also seems a bit slicker too, less lag.
Perhaps it depends on the system (hardware and software) as to how much benefit you get ?
For the record, I have El Capitan (latest iteration; and 'Use Graphics Processor' is disabled.
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Perhaps it depends on the system (hardware and software) as to how much benefit you get ?
That's what I might be thinking, too. A lot of people say they hardly notice a speedup with turning the graphics processor usage on - but I notice a pretty hefty speedup here, for the things it's supposed to speed up (and also slow down). So I usually keep it turned on.
I strictly use a ~2012 AMD 4-core Win10 laptop with the onboard graphics. Although I read, at the time, AMD's onboard graphics were supposed to be faster than Intel. But I'm thinking it could have something to do with the shared memory it uses for the graphics.. Might be less 'overhead', if that's the word I'm thinking of. :)
I know the image I was on had profile corrections and upright turned on, cause that would be a normal culprit I would check. I think I must have done roughly about 70 spot removals on that one. I haven't used LR much since then, cause I'm into other things right now - but I keep meaning to check further into any seeming-to-be speedups. Although I do remember pulling up an image with many brushings, and that was still slow as molasses (didn't check spotting) - so for all I know maybe it's primarily spotting on certain systems, as far as local adjustments go.
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I'm wondering if some of the perceived speed increases are due to LR been essentially a fresh install after the upgrade, after a few days or weeks it may go back to how it was.
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No changes, in fact maybe a bit slower on larger files from say the GFX or IQ100, way way too long to zoom to 100% as always. Also still quite slow for me on import screen.
Win10 3.4Ghz intel i7 nvidia GTX970 4GB of V ram, 32GB system ram.
Paul Caldwell