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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 20, 2017, 02:19:36 pm

Title: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 20, 2017, 02:19:36 pm
"Download this 60-page PDF from Magnum Photos—filled with excellent tips, advice and words of wisdom from the photographers at Magnum, as well as many of their iconic images."

EDIT: link that required to enter your email address removed. See the direct link in the next post

Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: ned on April 21, 2017, 11:41:17 am
Thanks, it's a good read.  Here's a direct link, not a fan of getting my email spammed by "signing up"  https://assets.lensculture.com/static/Magnum-Guide-2017.pdf
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 21, 2017, 03:19:30 pm
Great stuff, Slobodan. And Ned, thanks for the direct link. I'm not a spam aficionado either.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 22, 2017, 09:31:54 am
Now I'm beginning to understand why User Critiques has degenerated into "I was there," and "Here's a picture of my cat." Slobodan's excellent catch has been on here for two days and only two of us have reacted to it. Photography is an art form, except when it isn't -- which seems to be most of the time.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: churly on April 22, 2017, 06:31:07 pm
Now I'm beginning to understand why User Critiques has degenerated into "I was there," and "Here's a picture of my cat." Slobodan's excellent catch has been on here for two days and only two of us have reacted to it. Photography is an art form, except when it isn't -- which seems to be most of the time.

I had a look before the alternative link was provided and within 24 hours the spam started arriving.  Never-the-less, there is indeed some interesting material here.

Russ - I suggest that you start a thread, something like 'RSL Approved' and since you are a venerable member of Lula perhaps you could be given veto control over any image that appears so you could exercise right of approval and award a "RSL APPROVED ART" with an appropriate emoticon.  The rest of us duffers could enjoy a broad range of images in other threads and drift into your thread to take a dabbling of culture at our leisure.  Everyone would be happy.  :)
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: Rob C on April 23, 2017, 04:33:14 am
Now I'm beginning to understand why User Critiques has degenerated into "I was there," and "Here's a picture of my cat." Slobodan's excellent catch has been on here for two days and only two of us have reacted to it. Photography is an art form, except when it isn't -- which seems to be most of the time.


Russ, there's photography and photographers; they are not the same things.

Photographers have, by and large, thrown themselves off that cliff as somebody in the article suggested they might have to do.

I'm currently working harder than I ever did when I was still 'working' as a photographer. I have a self-imposed 'project' that's got me at the bloody computer until past midnight most recent nights, and some days I think it's going wonderfully and the next I want to pull it down and walk away. That might be senile decay, the onset of mental polarity, but whatever it is, it's total. I don't really recommend it. But I can't help it.

The problem with all clubs and chatsites is this: people end up chatting and not doing, or doing a lot of crap just to have something to post. It leads nowhere, and pretty much all I see here these days is formulaic. Volume seldom equates with value. Worse, one starts to see that those rare creatures capable of a constant output of great work are the exceptions; they also have earned the right to access, and in many spheres that's key, without which you'll never get in, and may just as well go to the couch and watch tv.

An example of the truth of the above can be seen in the link I posted to Peter Lindbergh, yesterday. The world he 'creates' he doesn't create: it exists for him for perhaps a morning or a day, made by all the contributing talents without which he'd be just another lonely soul looking for its function. None of us can make it in a vacuum. Most of us, photographically speaking, are in free fall within our personal vacuum.

That's why you see what you see, and there's no solution.

Rob
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 23, 2017, 09:58:44 am
Hi Rob,

I wish you the best on your project. Sounds like a lot of work but also a lot of fun. Wish I had something going at the moment that would be that all-encompassing. We're too far away from St. Augustine for me to spend much time over there on the street, and I've pretty much exhausted the possibilities of the live oaks in my local forest preserves. I'm no longer near the mountains with their wabi sabi structures and mines. Of course the annual Leesburg Bikefest (world's largest according to their ads) will soon begin, so I'd be able to go down there and shoot the kind of picture I've attached. WOW! WHAT FUN!!

You're right. There's no solution, as Chuck just made crystal clear. Everyone loves his tourist pictures and cats, and in spite of the title nobody wants critiques. So far, with a couple exceptions, we've been spared the selfies, but I'd expect those to begin appearing on User Critiques any time in quantity.

That's why I see what I see, and there's no solution.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: churly on April 23, 2017, 12:47:03 pm

You're right. There's no solution, as Chuck just made crystal clear. Everyone loves his tourist pictures and cats, and in spite of the title nobody wants critiques. So far, with a couple exceptions, we've been spared the selfies, but I'd expect those to begin appearing on User Critiques any time in quantity.


Nope! I am simply saying that I don't accept your opinion of what should or shouldn't be posted on Lula as authoritative.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 23, 2017, 12:52:55 pm
Okay, Chuck. Bring on the selfies. They may actually be better than the cats.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: Peter McLennan on April 23, 2017, 02:42:25 pm
Actually, from someone who's become a committed and capable selfie shooter, I find that they're both satisfying and challenging. Try it sometime.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 23, 2017, 04:45:51 pm
That's okay, Peter, I'll stick with the cats.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on April 24, 2017, 09:46:04 am
Now I'm beginning to understand why User Critiques has degenerated into "I was there," and "Here's a picture of my cat." Slobodan's excellent catch has been on here for two days and only two of us have reacted to it. Photography is an art form, except when it isn't -- which seems to be most of the time.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on April 24, 2017, 09:47:33 am
Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: RSL on April 24, 2017, 10:46:08 am
As I said, ". . .except for when it isn't, which seems to be most of the time." Thanks, Paulo for making my point clear.
Title: Re: Free Magnum Guide
Post by: JMCP on April 26, 2017, 06:21:21 am
Downloaded, thanks.

Cheers, John